Years ago I bought some Progressive shocks from EPC to put on my Sportster. When they arrived, I was so excited I took them and my bike immediately to the indy mechanic I was using at the time for him to install. When he called me to come pick it up, he asked me, "Did you know those shocks were used? There were tell tale signs that they'd been installed and taken off of another bike." EPC denied it, of course, and I didn't want to go through the hassle of taking them off and returning them. But, I've never done business with them again.