Me and dad rode around 75 miles today and almost froze!! It was 50 degrees, and running 70 mph it felt like 30's. we had a great time, my bike run like a new one, he's 85 fxstc ran great until the carb started acting up at the end of the trip, he's running a non cv KEIHIN. it runs way to rich, he's getting a new cv conversion carb from killer m/c products. hopefully it'll fix it. I really enjoyed riding with my dad, i'm about ready to upgrade from the 883 to a 1450.