OK I am sure a lot of you are going to think I'm nuts but these Rineharts aren't very loud. They are a little louder then stock but even all my riding buddies are like, those are Rineharts? There not very loud. Even the girlfriend and my daughter both said I expected it to be a lot louder. I know part of my issue may be that on my last bike (07 Nightster) I had V&H Short Shots (which are very loud) and a couple of my buddies I ride with, one has a Low Rider with straight pipes (no baffles) and another has a custom bike with S&S motor with just drag pipes. So I'm use to loud but these aren't much more then factory to me. My question is, did they put the quiet baffles in by mistake? They are part # 1801-0100 I bought them off E-Bay as blemished. I took the baffles out yesterday and they weren't wrapped with anything (if that matters). Should I try a different factory baffle or just go with Big City Thunder and put their baffles in the head pipe and leave the baffle out of the Rineharts? Or just run straight pipes?