Hi all, first time poster here and I guess my first post will be a rant. I've posted on another HD forum I won't name in the past. I just installed a gen3 on my 2014 Street Glide and have had a gen3 on my last two Harleys. I love them. But from my experience there is definitely a feeling out there from a lot of folks that these tuners are crap and there are far "better"(and much more expensive) tuners out there and I should be dropping tons of money on something like a SERT or TTS and getting it dynoed and such. What? Why do I need to do all that? I started a thred on the other site about something that really wasn't really related to the Gen3. It was asked what kind of tuner I have on the bike and I told them I had the Gen3. Here's a sample of the responses I got after that: "Never heard of that" twice "Thats not really a tuner......its fuel management"....mkay "It will then depend upon how long you plan on owning the bike. Couple years and get a new one? That piggyback is good enough. Going to keep it longer, I recommend a full blown tuner like TTS or SEPST. It's all about timing and not fuel."..........HUH? WHAT? This isnt the first time ive ran across stuff like this. There's a definitely a lack of respect for Dobecks products out there. Its either a lack of respect or just plain ignorance. Money does not always equate to something better. If you want to drop a couple grand on "a real tuner" and dyno time be my guest. I'll keep my gen3.