Harley Davidson Community
| Forgot your username or password? | Help!

V-Twin Heat Deflectors & Bike Shades

Hello Guest,
Welcome to the HDTalking, registration is completely FREE and takes only a few seconds. By registering you'll gain: Full Posting Privileges, Access to Private Messaging, Optional Email Notification, Upload Photos, Upload Videos, Respond to Polls, Ability to Fully Participate.

To register now click here!
If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please submit ticket to our helpdesk team.


Life expectancy of Caliper

Wheels

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old Nov 19th, 2008, 04:30 AM     #1
New Family
Ride: 2003 Heritage
 
Join Date: Nov 19th, 2008
Posts: 6
drummer is an unknown quantity at this point
Life expectancy of Caliper

I got a 2003 Heritage with 98k miles....anyone know what the life expectancy is for a front brake caliper....?? The issue started like most,,,squealing...I followed all the tips on this forum. So now Ive resigned to the fact that I Got new rotor , new pads.. now im considering getting a whole new caliper...just because of the miles I got on it.
drummer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 19th, 2008, 09:38 AM     #2
Moderators
Ride: '03 FLHTCUI (Ultra Classic)
 
TQuentin1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 4th, 2008
Location: Sugar Land, TX
Posts: 1,936
TQuentin1 is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: Life expectancy of Caliper

Quote:
Originally Posted by drummer View Post
I got a 2003 Heritage with 98k miles....anyone know what the life expectancy is for a front brake caliper....?? The issue started like most,,,squealing...I followed all the tips on this forum. So now Ive resigned to the fact that I Got new rotor , new pads.. now im considering getting a whole new caliper...just because of the miles I got on it.
Hmm. Unless something happened to it, it SHOULD outlast the bike. Get the HD Factory Service Manual for your bike (contact Gary12850 by pm if you need one) and rebuild the caliper. Easy to do. Then flush out the brake lines with new fluid (make sure you use the correct DOT # brake fluid), bleed it and you should be good to go.

TQ
__________________

Please stop by the "self help section" for maintenance tips, diagnostic codes and much more.
>>Self Help Information and Tips<< click me!
TQuentin1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 19th, 2008, 09:53 AM     #3
Community Liaison
Ride: 07 Road King Classic
 
glider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 21st, 2007
Posts: 20,469
My Mood: My Mood
glider is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: Life expectancy of Caliper

I agree with TQ, proper maintenance plays a big part in it also.

Brake Caliper Maintenance - Harley Davidson Community
__________________
Psssst!
Please stop by the "self help section" for maintenance tips, diagnostic codes and much more.
click me!>>Self Help Information and Tips<< click me!
glider is online now   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 19th, 2008, 09:59 AM     #4
Contributor$
Ride: 2007 FLHTC
 
gs34's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 25th, 2008
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 607
gs34 is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: Life expectancy of Caliper

Agreed. There is the possibility that there may be some wear of the pistons where they ride on the seal surfaces. This is something you sould inspect carefully when you rebuild the calipers.
If there is any scoreing of the pistons, from dirt & debris, or if you can feel any appreciable wear in the seal area, then the pistons should be replaced.
gs34 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 19th, 2008, 11:22 AM     #5
Moderators
Ride: '03 FLHTCUI (Ultra Classic)
 
TQuentin1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 4th, 2008
Location: Sugar Land, TX
Posts: 1,936
TQuentin1 is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: Life expectancy of Caliper

Quote:
Originally Posted by gs34 View Post
Agreed. There is the possibility that there may be some wear of the pistons where they ride on the seal surfaces. This is something you sould inspect carefully when you rebuild the calipers.
If there is any scoreing of the pistons, from dirt & debris, or if you can feel any appreciable wear in the seal area, then the pistons should be replaced.
Yeah, but at 100k miles I suggest just replacing the pistons and ALL the other wear items. You can buy the rebuild kit with or without, so I would just get the "with" kits. The caliper housing, unless you have mashed into something, should last longer than the bike will. Make sure you clean up the bolts and pins well, and apply some good light-weight lube to them on reassembly. All the "rubber" parts should be replaced. Probably that last time you will have to do all this on that bike (excluding pads of course), so do it all, and then just maintain as per the link Glider sent you.

TQ
__________________

Please stop by the "self help section" for maintenance tips, diagnostic codes and much more.
>>Self Help Information and Tips<< click me!
TQuentin1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 19th, 2008, 02:11 PM     #6
Contributor$
Ride: 08 Ultra Classic
 
Lancer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 25th, 2008
Location: Palm Bay, Fl
Posts: 384
My Mood: My Mood
Lancer is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: Life expectancy of Caliper

Could this not be the pads vibrating? The fix for the rear brake squeal on the 08 touring bikes is to apply the anti squeal compound to the pads. The same blue stuff used to quiet squeal on your car disk brakes.
Lancer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 19th, 2008, 04:12 PM     #7
Moderators
Ride: 2004 Sportster XL1200RS
 
NEWHD74FAN's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 24th, 2008
Location: Camarillo, CA
Posts: 3,716
My Mood: My Mood
NEWHD74FAN is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: Life expectancy of Caliper

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lancer View Post
Could this not be the pads vibrating? The fix for the rear brake squeal on the 08 touring bikes is to apply the anti squeal compound to the pads. The same blue stuff used to quiet squeal on your car disk brakes.
That blue stuff is really a gimmick or bandaid made to change resonance of vibration and cushion a loose fit between the pad(s) backing plate/shim and the caliper body (which should not exist if you have the proper kit).

An additional problem is it may act like a thermal insulator, limiting heat transfer. If HD/OEM service manual does not say to use it...DON'T.
NEWHD74FAN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 19th, 2008, 05:17 PM     #8
Contributor$
Ride: 08 Ultra Classic
 
Lancer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 25th, 2008
Location: Palm Bay, Fl
Posts: 384
My Mood: My Mood
Lancer is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: Life expectancy of Caliper

Quote:
Originally Posted by NEWHD74FAN View Post
That blue stuff is really a gimmick or bandaid made to change resonance of vibration and cushion a loose fit between the pad(s) backing plate/shim and the caliper body (which should not exist if you have the proper kit).

An additional problem is it may act like a thermal insulator, limiting heat transfer. If HD/OEM service manual does not say to use it...DON'T.
Check this link, it contains an HD service bulletin: Rear Brake Noise 08-09 Touring - Harley Davidson Community The fix for rear brake squeal on 08-09 touring is anti squeal paste.
Lancer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 19th, 2008, 07:13 PM     #9
Moderators
Ride: 2004 Sportster XL1200RS
 
NEWHD74FAN's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 24th, 2008
Location: Camarillo, CA
Posts: 3,716
My Mood: My Mood
NEWHD74FAN is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: Life expectancy of Caliper

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lancer View Post
Check this link, it contains an HD service bulletin: Rear Brake Noise 08-09 Touring - Harley Davidson Community The fix for rear brake squeal on 08-09 touring is anti squeal paste.
Sorry, in this case...I remember early in my automotive repair days some brake kits came with the Permatex blue stuff, in which case we used it. But if pad kit did not come with it, we did not use it. There were some manufacturers who issued Service Bulletins not to use it (because the cooling issue)...so I'll punt

If the HD service bulletin says to use it for NOISE suppression for the specific model HD go for it...

Brake longevity is another issue...
NEWHD74FAN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 28th, 2008, 09:48 PM     #10
New Family
Ride: 2003 Heritage
 
Join Date: Nov 19th, 2008
Posts: 6
drummer is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: Life expectancy of Caliper

Well I replaced the rotor, replaced the pads, cleaned up the caliper with brakeleen with the pucks extended out quite a bit but not out of the bores. everything looks good....everything is working fine after 4 hours of bleeding the brakes..!!! Now after 100 miles I got brake squeal again.....
drummer is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off




Click here to report problem banner advertisements on HDTalking site.

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:40 AM.
Copyright © 2009 www.HDTalking.com.All Right Reserved.
HDTalking is not an official and is not associated with Harley Davidson,Inc.
All information contained within this site is copyright HDTalking and may not be reproduced without written permission.
Harley Davidson Forum