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Old 07-15-2008, 06:23 AM     #1 (permalink)
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why 5th gear?

I have an '08 FLSTC just rolled over 1200 miles. The 1K maintenance was done by the dealer with SYN3 in all 3 holes. That's just FYI if anybody wants to know...

My comment is this-- For the first 3-400 miles the drive components were kinda clunky and I was getting used to riding a different bike and with no tach and trying to follow the recommended break-in. By 500 miles the entire thing smoothed out and now is even better. I think the 1K fluid changes even improved it. So, I know that things change as the bike is broken in and will probably continue to change.

One thing that hasn't changed so far is 5th gear. It seems useless. In 5th the engine either sounds as if I'm going too slow or too fast. I would prefer to just skip 5th and go from 4th to 6th. Sixth gear is really smooth and quiet!

I watch the speedo but in reality change gears more on feel and sound and I always feel like 5th doesn't 'feel' or sound right. Either 4th or 6th is usually more appropriate.

Am I imagining this or has anyone else experienced it?

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Old 07-15-2008, 09:24 AM     #2 (permalink)
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Re: why 5th gear?

with no tach try it about 50 55 mph thats almost 3000rpm on my ride 6th gear on my bike lugs around 2500 at 70 but really 6th gear likes 80
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Old 07-15-2008, 12:32 PM     #3 (permalink)
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Re: why 5th gear?

The new cruise drive transmissions are geared poorly IMO and if you are shifting by feel and sound and not lugging the engine, you are doing good. The 96 doesn't like to be lugged and the gearing was a poor decision for most. I'll take the gearing in the 5 speeds any day over the 6 speed.
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Re: why 5th gear?

I have no problems with the six speed gearing but then I'm pretty new to the whole Harley thing. Not trying to be mean but did you even take this bike out for a test ride or rent one for a day? This is not a characteristic which just appeared overnight.
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Re: why 5th gear?

I dont have a problem with the gearing either .. course this is my first harley i dont hit 5th till at least 50 and round town use on the high way about 70 is where i grab 6th ... it seems that the gearing is for cruising an fuel mileage only ..
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Re: why 5th gear?

Took me awhile to get use to my six speed at first i was afraid to run the bike down the road at 60 in sixth.
But as I got use to it I see it works just fine and cause no problems.
60 in sixth is about 2100 on my RG.
The Spectro gear lube help quiet the bike down a lot
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Re: why 5th gear?

you cheat smitty ya got a tach.. at 70 on the highway i cant even hear mine run
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Re: why 5th gear?

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you cheat smitty ya got a tach.. at 70 on the highway i cant even hear mine run
It is very quiet but you can tell your falling off of 2100 rpms by the way it sounds and feels it seems that the 2100 rpms is the basement for rpms on my bike. any lower it just does not sound of feel right.
Now my fatboy no tac just shift and goooooooooooooooooo
I seem to never have to worry much on that one
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Re: why 5th gear?

I just did 700 miles this weekend, alot of it was highway. 75 mph on flat road was good in 6th gear, 80 mph it really felt smooth. Anything less than 75 or 2500 rpm seemed to loose power or lug. 2600 rpm or higher would just keep on pulling even on a hill. I'm finding that I don't hit 5th til about 55 mph.
Keep in mind I have a fairing though, just a bit more wind resistance, but should be the same as Smitty's.
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Old 07-16-2008, 06:44 AM     #10 (permalink)
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Not trying to be mean but did you even take this bike out for a test ride or rent one for a day?
No and No. And it wouldn't have mattered for me. This bike is unlike anything I've ridden in the past and I'm still getting used to a bunch of stuff. It has taken me 3 or 4 weeks and 1200 miles just to arrive at my observation and post my question, so a few hours test riding wouldn't have revealed a specific such as I mention about 5th gear. Two hours in I was still trying not to honk the horn every time I wanted to make a left turn!

Not to mention the changing patterns of heat generation, various sounds, and torque characteristics. At first I was adapting myself to the bike--now I'm beginning to notice some of the subtle traits of the bike itself. The more I settle into this bike and the more it settles into being ridden, I may discover even more things I don't understand (not to be mean or anything ). As I stated before, this bike was a different animal almost every day for the first few hundred miles.
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Thanks for all the replies. I've got about a 1000 mile ride planned over the next few days so perhaps I'll be better acquainted with the gearing after that!

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