Primary Whining

wildspirit97 · 08-07-2008, 10:08 PM

Hey thanks, awesome videos. I just got off the phone with Pinocchio and asked if they checked the run out on the crank and he said yes.

. I do seem to remember something about him telling me what everything measured out to, and I think it was .003. Do you think if it's within spec on the primary side it still might be out on the cam side? If nothing else I do think they want to fix right because I've been a big enough pain that they don't want me back in there. He tells me his top mechanic has been working on these bike for 29 years, I would hope he knows what he's doing by now.

I've only been doing my line of work for about 12 years and I'm one of the best there is.

29 years ago I was only 3!!!

glider · 08-08-2008, 08:31 AM

With the design of the crank, if one side is out, generally they are both out. If it is out far enough, you get vibrations and will eventually take out the oil pump.

wildspirit97 · 08-10-2008, 02:35 PM

Well I got her back yesterday morning, And I think she's finally fixed!

I have a complete new primary. New clutch hub, new compensating sprocket and a new primary chain and She sounds normal again.
The clutch seems a little touchy right now but I'm not sure if I need to adjust it a little or if I'm just used to the clutch on my Honda Shadow. But I also had a heck of a time finding neutral when I first got it back.

glider · 08-10-2008, 03:57 PM

Check the primarty chain tension after some miles if that or the hub/sprocket were changed. The initial breakin will leave you with some slop. Also the clutch adjustment will cause a problem with finding neutral if it is grabbing up near the bar. Check your primary fluid level, if it is too high (over the bottom edge of the clutch hub) that will cause problems also finding neutral.

wildspirit97 · 08-17-2008, 01:38 PM

Looks like Pinocchio

strikes again. I went in and asked for the paperwork on what they did you my bike. After being told they were replacing the compensating sprocket clutch assembly and the primary chain, and had checked the run out on the main shaft, crank compensator sprocket and flywheel, the paper work says.............
the parts replaced were, 17359-06 Gasket service kit, 1k,5 / 37813-06a Clutch Assembly / 40036-06 Chain,Primary Drive / 60547-06 Gasket, Primary Cover / 99851-05 Formula+ Lubricant, Quart.
The work it says they did is: Called tech service for guidance, REF #_____ Check flywheeel run out found within specs. found broken tooth on clutch starter ring

glider · 08-17-2008, 01:41 PM

Just another happy customer treated well by an upstanding dealer

Vibratinharley · 08-21-2008, 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glider

I don't feel you are wrong at all. If the compensator bolt was installed correctly to begin with and the proper clamp load was applied using the washer or a cut down bolt, it shouldn't have come loose at all.

Burnt smell the clutch???

You must ride the heck out of it

Glider, Is it normal to have any clunking at all from compensating sprocket? My 2008 with 7500 miles on it makes noise when pulling out from stop and is even worse when bike is loaded down with passenger and gear.

glider · 08-21-2008, 08:13 AM

The 07 and on compensators are junk. They use a setup like a wave washer to keep tension rather than a ramp setup like older ones. That's why you get the bang also when you start the motor. Bring it up to the dealer, there's been a few changed under warranty.

08-07-2008, 10:08 PM	#41 (permalink)
wildspirit97 Contributor$ Ride: 2007 softail fxst Join Date: 2007, Sep 12 Location: Washington Posts: 527 My Mood:	Re: Primary Whining Hey thanks, awesome videos. I just got off the phone with Pinocchio and asked if they checked the run out on the crank and he said yes.. I do seem to remember something about him telling me what everything measured out to, and I think it was .003. Do you think if it's within spec on the primary side it still might be out on the cam side? If nothing else I do think they want to fix right because I've been a big enough pain that they don't want me back in there. He tells me his top mechanic has been working on these bike for 29 years, I would hope he knows what he's doing by now. I've only been doing my line of work for about 12 years and I'm one of the best there is. 29 years ago I was only 3!!!

08-08-2008, 08:31 AM	#42 (permalink)
glider Community Liaison Ride: 07 Road King Classic Join Date: 2007, Jun 21 Posts: 10,315 My Mood:	Re: Primary Whining With the design of the crank, if one side is out, generally they are both out. If it is out far enough, you get vibrations and will eventually take out the oil pump. __________________ Psssst! Please stop by the "self help section" for maintenance tips, diagnostic codes and much more. click me!>>Self Help Information and Tips<< click me!

08-10-2008, 02:35 PM	#43 (permalink)
wildspirit97 Contributor$ Ride: 2007 softail fxst Join Date: 2007, Sep 12 Location: Washington Posts: 527 My Mood:	Re: Primary Whining Well I got her back yesterday morning, And I think she's finally fixed! I have a complete new primary. New clutch hub, new compensating sprocket and a new primary chain and She sounds normal again. The clutch seems a little touchy right now but I'm not sure if I need to adjust it a little or if I'm just used to the clutch on my Honda Shadow. But I also had a heck of a time finding neutral when I first got it back.

08-10-2008, 03:57 PM	#44 (permalink)
glider Community Liaison Ride: 07 Road King Classic Join Date: 2007, Jun 21 Posts: 10,315 My Mood:	Re: Primary Whining Check the primarty chain tension after some miles if that or the hub/sprocket were changed. The initial breakin will leave you with some slop. Also the clutch adjustment will cause a problem with finding neutral if it is grabbing up near the bar. Check your primary fluid level, if it is too high (over the bottom edge of the clutch hub) that will cause problems also finding neutral. __________________ Psssst! Please stop by the "self help section" for maintenance tips, diagnostic codes and much more. click me!>>Self Help Information and Tips<< click me!

08-17-2008, 01:38 PM	#45 (permalink)
wildspirit97 Contributor$ Ride: 2007 softail fxst Join Date: 2007, Sep 12 Location: Washington Posts: 527 My Mood:	Re: Primary Whining Looks like Pinocchio strikes again. I went in and asked for the paperwork on what they did you my bike. After being told they were replacing the compensating sprocket clutch assembly and the primary chain, and had checked the run out on the main shaft, crank compensator sprocket and flywheel, the paper work says............. the parts replaced were, 17359-06 Gasket service kit, 1k,5 / 37813-06a Clutch Assembly / 40036-06 Chain,Primary Drive / 60547-06 Gasket, Primary Cover / 99851-05 Formula+ Lubricant, Quart. The work it says they did is: Called tech service for guidance, REF #_____ Check flywheeel run out found within specs. found broken tooth on clutch starter ring

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08-17-2008, 01:41 PM	#46 (permalink)
glider Community Liaison Ride: 07 Road King Classic Join Date: 2007, Jun 21 Posts: 10,315 My Mood:	Re: Primary Whining Just another happy customer treated well by an upstanding dealer __________________ Psssst! Please stop by the "self help section" for maintenance tips, diagnostic codes and much more. click me!>>Self Help Information and Tips<< click me!

08-21-2008, 08:13 AM	#48 (permalink)
glider Community Liaison Ride: 07 Road King Classic Join Date: 2007, Jun 21 Posts: 10,315 My Mood:	Re: Primary Whining The 07 and on compensators are junk. They use a setup like a wave washer to keep tension rather than a ramp setup like older ones. That's why you get the bang also when you start the motor. Bring it up to the dealer, there's been a few changed under warranty. __________________ Psssst! Please stop by the "self help section" for maintenance tips, diagnostic codes and much more. click me!>>Self Help Information and Tips<< click me!

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