Harley Davidson Community  
HomeGalleryVideoWeatherHarley Davidson Store English  German  Spanish  French  Italian  Portuguese  Russian  Japanese  Korean  Traditional Chinese  Simplified Chinese  Arabic 


Hello Guest,
Welcome to the HDTalking, registration is completely FREE and takes only a few seconds. By registering you'll gain: Full Posting Privileges, Access to Private Messaging, Optional Email Notification, Upload Photos, Upload Videos, Respond to Polls, Ability to Fully Participate.

To register now click here!
If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please submit ticket to our helpdesk team.



Go Back   Harley Davidson Community > General Tech Harley Davidson > Transmission
Quick Links Tips Forums Games Help Pages HDT Rules Download
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Primary leak

Transmission

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-13-2008, 12:05 PM     #1 (permalink)
New Family
Ride: 2005 Road King Classic
 
BKDIII's Avatar
 
Join Date: 2008, Apr 13
Posts: 3
My Mood:
BKDIII is an unknown quantity at this point
Primary leak

Hello All,

New member with a question. My 2005 RK Classic seems to have sprung a leak at the primary. It is collecting near the drain plug, but I don't think that's where it is leaking. Where are the most common leaks developed at after 23,000 or so miles? I'm riding to Laughlin in less than two weeks and won't be able to do much about the leak until after the trip. Figured I would top off the oil before I go. It is a very slow drip.

Last edited by BKDIII : 04-13-2008 at 12:28 PM.
BKDIII is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Click for more info
 
     
Old 04-13-2008, 12:53 PM     #2 (permalink)
Community Liaison
Ride: 07 Road King Classic
 
glider's Avatar
 
Join Date: 2007, Jun 21
Posts: 10,315
My Mood:
glider is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: Primary leak

More than likely if it's not the gasket, it's the starter jack shaft seal or the trans shaft seal as a second choice . Each which would require a bit of work to change.
__________________
Psssst!
Please stop by the "self help section" for maintenance tips, diagnostic codes and much more.
click me!>>Self Help Information and Tips<< click me!
glider is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-2008, 01:04 PM     #3 (permalink)
Play The Throttle
Ride: 2002 Fatboy, name "Seabiscuit"
 
bikermonkey's Avatar
 
Join Date: 2007, Oct 24
Location: Corbin, Kentucky
Posts: 307
My Mood:
bikermonkey is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: Primary leak

It's not leaking man, it's Marking it's spot.
__________________
Don't make me pick you out of my carburetor.
bikermonkey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-2008, 01:06 PM     #4 (permalink)
Moderators
Ride: '03 FLHTCUI
 
TQuentin1's Avatar
 
Join Date: 2008, Apr 04
Location: Missouri City, TX
Posts: 451
TQuentin1 is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: Primary leak

Couple of quick questions:

How bad is the leak? Couple of drops over night, or a pretty good puddle everytime you stop?

Have you cleaned it well so that you can determine if the oil is coming from the left or right side of the primary?

If it is coming from the left, snug up the drain plug a quarter turn (did you use teflon tape on the drain plug when reinstalling?).

Snug up the five derby cover (clutch inspection cover) screws or better, replace the quad ring (gasket).

If the leak seems to be from the right side of the primary, is it chain case oil, or does it seem to be tranny oil or engine oil?

If you are getting a "leak" on the right side of the primary, but can not seem to find a source for the leak, do you still have that goofy u-tube shape short piece of hose on the transmission vent? I had that spraying a fine mist of transmission oil on the right side of the primary that I fussed with for weeks until I figure it out. I just got a longer hose and routed it across the top of the tranny to the rear of the starter and over by the over flow hose on the right side of the bike hanging down towards the road.

Anything more than this will probably mean taking stuff off the bike to see where the leak is. Good luck.

TQ
TQuentin1 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-2008, 01:39 PM     #5 (permalink)
Community Star
Ride: 2004 Roadking
 
Fourdogs's Avatar
 
Join Date: 2007, Sep 16
Posts: 639
My Mood:
Fourdogs is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: Primary leak

Replace the "O" ring on the drain plug. The newer ones have a "O" ring. Older bikes had none and guys would use thread compound or Teflon tape...Good luck...Hope ya have a great trip.
Fourdogs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-2008, 02:04 PM     #6 (permalink)
New Family
Ride: 2005 Road King Classic
 
BKDIII's Avatar
 
Join Date: 2008, Apr 13
Posts: 3
My Mood:
BKDIII is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: Primary leak

Quote:
Originally Posted by TQuentin1 View Post
Couple of quick questions:

How bad is the leak? Couple of drops over night, or a pretty good puddle everytime you stop?

Have you cleaned it well so that you can determine if the oil is coming from the left or right side of the primary?

If it is coming from the left, snug up the drain plug a quarter turn (did you use teflon tape on the drain plug when reinstalling?).

Snug up the five derby cover (clutch inspection cover) screws or better, replace the quad ring (gasket).

If the leak seems to be from the right side of the primary, is it chain case oil, or does it seem to be tranny oil or engine oil?

If you are getting a "leak" on the right side of the primary, but can not seem to find a source for the leak, do you still have that goofy u-tube shape short piece of hose on the transmission vent? I had that spraying a fine mist of transmission oil on the right side of the primary that I fussed with for weeks until I figure it out. I just got a longer hose and routed it across the top of the tranny to the rear of the starter and over by the over flow hose on the right side of the bike hanging down towards the road.

Anything more than this will probably mean taking stuff off the bike to see where the leak is. Good luck.

TQ
It left a few drops yesterday after a long and hot run here in Orange Co. Wiped it down last night and did not see anything new today.

I did tighten the drain plug, but I noticed it doesn't bottom out, it just keeps turning, but that does not seem to be where the leak is coming from.
All other bolts were tight.
BKDIII is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-2008, 02:40 PM     #7 (permalink)
Community Liaison
Ride: 07 Road King Classic
 
glider's Avatar
 
Join Date: 2007, Jun 21
Posts: 10,315
My Mood:
glider is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: Primary leak

Be very careful tightening the primary drain plug. The older bikes (before the new design) have a tapered allen head bolt and I you over tighten it, the end can contact the clutch basket knocking off the magnet on the end which ends up in the primary oil then.

Primary Chain Case Servicing - Harley Davidson Community
__________________
Psssst!
Please stop by the "self help section" for maintenance tips, diagnostic codes and much more.
click me!>>Self Help Information and Tips<< click me!
glider is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-2008, 02:41 PM     #8 (permalink)
Moderators
Ride: 2007 Road glide
 
smitty901's Avatar
 
Join Date: 2008, Jan 01
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 2,205
My Mood:
smitty901 is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: Primary leak

This is another good reason for running the red stuff in the trans, M1 in engine and f+ in primary It is so easy to tell were it came from
__________________
The Infantry leads the way
smitty901 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-2008, 07:31 PM     #9 (permalink)
Community Guru Wannabe
Ride: 2005 Deuce
 
joyflyin's Avatar
 
Join Date: 2008, Jan 05
Location: Ohio
Posts: 1,712
My Mood:
joyflyin is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: Primary leak

I know drain plugs for the primary are cheap. $3.95 @ the HD dealer. I can't see much difference being in different parts of the country. A few cents maybe, but I would question if they say $13.95. Better safe than sorry.
joyflyin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-14-2008, 11:35 AM     #10 (permalink)
New Family
Ride: 2005 Road King Classic
 
BKDIII's Avatar
 
Join Date: 2008, Apr 13
Posts: 3
My Mood:
BKDIII is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: Primary leak

Quote:
Originally Posted by joyflyin View Post
I know drain plugs for the primary are cheap. $3.95 @ the HD dealer. I can't see much difference being in different parts of the country. A few cents maybe, but I would question if they say $13.95. Better safe than sorry.
Replaced the plug and replaced the Syn 3 with F+. Parts guy at the stealer said Syn 3 has been known to leak where other lubricants may not. So far, no leaks after short test run. Thanks to all for input.
BKDIII is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:48 PM.

Copyright © 2006 www.HDTalking.com.All Right Reserved.
HDTalking is not an official and is not associated with Harley Davidson,Inc.
All information contained within this site is copyright HDTalking and may not be reproduced without written permission.

Harley Davidson Forum