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Old Oct 30th, 2009, 08:43 AM     #21
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Re: 09 Primary Capacity - is manual accurate?

There shouldn't be any problems if you fill with the required amount of oil stated in the owners manual or factory manual regardless of the older practices.
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Old Oct 30th, 2009, 01:22 PM     #22
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Re: 09 Primary Capacity - is manual accurate?

Had a little time on my hands this morning so I rode over to dealer ship.
The shop manager Jason is straight up and knows HD no madder what some may say about so called steelers. I ask him to explain the Primary level and amount to add in the TC96 touring bikes.
"The bottom of the basket is the lowest level it should ever be, as long as the bike is straight up and level there is no reason you can not use that as your guide. 38 oz is the correct amount to add." Either way get your service done and ride.
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Old Oct 31st, 2009, 06:12 PM     #23
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Had a little time on my hands this morning so I rode over to dealer ship.
The shop manager Jason is straight up and knows HD no madder what some may say about so called steelers. I ask him to explain the Primary level and amount to add in the TC96 touring bikes.
"The bottom of the basket is the lowest level it should ever be, as long as the bike is straight up and level there is no reason you can not use that as your guide. 38 oz is the correct amount to add." Either way get your service done and ride.
Smitty,
thank you for taking the time to do this. 38 oz is the answer.

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Old Nov 1st, 2009, 08:56 AM     #24
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Re: 09 Primary Capacity - is manual accurate?

I changed my primary oil yesterday to get the syn3 out, After reading this thread I decided to see how much oil was in mine. I drained it and measured what was in there found 38oz. dealer put that in at the 1000 mile service. so I put 38oz back in.

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I changed my primary oil yesterday to get the syn3 out, After reading this thread I decided to see how much oil was in mine. I drained it and measured what was in there found 38oz. dealer put that in at the 1000 mile service. so I put 38oz back in.

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I know some may find this strange but any time I change oil or lube I measure what comes out.
Wife still wonders were that big nice fancy glass measurung cup she had went.
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Old Nov 1st, 2009, 01:14 PM     #26
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I measured mine and found it a little low from dealer prep will add correct amount from now on
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Old Nov 2nd, 2009, 10:46 PM     #27
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Re: 09 Primary Capacity - is manual accurate?

34 ounces in mine drained out and 34 ounces put back in.
Put in Klotz "Synthetic Primary Chain Case Lubricant".
It says that it is a GL 5 and SAE 80W/90.
It says that it is "custom formulated for the Harley Davidson engine", and that it meets or exceeds all warranty requirements. It goes on to say that it "penetrates deep into chain rollers to loosen stiff links and extend chain and sprocket life. Hmmmm, interesting...
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Forgive my lack of knowledge on this....but is the "self-adjuster" a feature that came out after the 2007 model year?

EDIT - oops - this was to be a reply to Glider and his quote - the forum timed me out for some reason and I had to log back on to send and that's when I noticed the error??? sorry.

My factory shop manual and owners manual both indicate 32oz. for the primary (2007 FXSTC).
Glider, didn't I read here somewhere, that too much or too little (cant recall which) oil in the primary may be cause for poor shifting and difficulty finding neutral? IF so, those few ounces just might make a difference - right? I know my manual says the capacity of the primary is 26 ounces but I drained out 32 ounces. I replaced the oil with 26 ounces just like the book said. Now who's right - me or the dealer that put 32 in? AND should I go ahead and add about 4-6 more ounces to the primary? BTW, I posted this elsewhere here - but, the manual says BOTH - approx. 26 ozs AND - capacity of 32 ounces for the primary - I guess the HD manual is sorta like an ASME CODE book - written to make confusion. IF the truth be known, it probably doesn't make too much difference if its 26 or 32 ounces or anything in between. You know, it says my fuel tank has 5.0 gal capacity. But when filling, you fill to the top and its full regardless of how many gallons you put in it. BUT, IF it was truly empty - 5 gals should be the capacity - not 4.6-5.4 gallons. Just my thoughts on the matter.

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Glider, didn't I read here somewhere, that too much or too little (cant recall which) oil in the primary may be cause for poor shifting and difficulty finding neutral? IF so, those few ounces just might make a difference - right? I know my manual says the capacity of the primary is 26 ounces but I drained out 32 ounces. I replaced the oil with 26 ounces just like the book said. Now who's right - me or the dealer that put 32 in? AND should I go ahead and add about 4-6 more ounces to the primary? BTW, I posted this elsewhere here - but, the manual says BOTH - approx. 26 ozs AND - capacity of 32 ounces for the primary - I guess the HD manual is sorta like an ASME CODE book - written to make confusion. IF the truth be known, it probably doesn't make too much difference if its 26 or 32 ounces or anything in between. You know, it says my fuel tank has 5.0 gal capacity. But when filling, you fill to the top and its full regardless of how many gallons you put in it. BUT, IF it was truly empty - 5 gals should be the capacity - not 4.6-5.4 gallons. Just my thoughts on the matter.

Bill

I'M NOT GLIDER, but IMO

MY 2000 dyna uses 26/28 oz. in primary

DON"T confuse years and DIFFERENT models....THE 96 cu in bikes ARE DIFFERENT.....

the earlier bikes like OURS used 26/28 ozs. the LAZY changer added the FULL 32 oz.

I know a few mechanics who ADD THE WHOLE BOTTLE ... SAYING IT DOESN"T HURT and it probably doesn't but MY 2000 dyna BOOK calls out for 26 oz./ to bottom of clutch basket

NOTED : yes TOO MUCH OIL can cause drag on clutch and make shifting difficult...
IF I USE 32 OZ. IN DYNA chain case ... I FEEL THE DRAG....

MY 09 FLHR uses 38 oz. and that I use. (.)

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Glider, didn't I read here somewhere, that too much or too little (cant recall which) oil in the primary may be cause for poor shifting and difficulty finding neutral? IF so, those few ounces just might make a difference - right? I know my manual says the capacity of the primary is 26 ounces but I drained out 32 ounces. I replaced the oil with 26 ounces just like the book said. Now who's right - me or the dealer that put 32 in? AND should I go ahead and add about 4-6 more ounces to the primary? BTW, I posted this elsewhere here - but, the manual says BOTH - approx. 26 ozs AND - capacity of 32 ounces for the primary - I guess the HD manual is sorta like an ASME CODE book - written to make confusion. IF the truth be known, it probably doesn't make too much difference if its 26 or 32 ounces or anything in between. You know, it says my fuel tank has 5.0 gal capacity. But when filling, you fill to the top and its full regardless of how many gallons you put in it. BUT, IF it was truly empty - 5 gals should be the capacity - not 4.6-5.4 gallons. Just my thoughts on the matter.

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Manuals have been wrong before. If the capacity is 26 in the book, add that much and see if it comes to the bottom of the clutch basket. It may be dry and wet fills too referred to. Too much or too little oil in the primary will cause problems either way and don't think that if the dealer put more oil than the manual says that they were right in doing it. They make many mistakes.

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