Shift points on 07 EG

Sgt York · Aug 25th, 2008, 11:34 AM

I took my EG to Bumpus for service and asked about the 5th gear noise. Their answer confused me. The manual (yes I did read it as I plan on keeping it forever and driving it until the wheels fall off) states that the shift points are:

1st 15
2nd 25
3rd 30
4th 40
5th 48
6th 55

Which is about 2000 RPM. The dealer said that the manual was wrong and I should not even go into 6th untill I hit 75-80 MPH. Is this right?? Not any speed limits that fast around here.

What speeds is the correct speeds to shift at for fuel economy and still not lug the engine?

Thanks.

glider · Aug 25th, 2008, 11:56 AM

Without the IDS installed 6th gear would sound like a can if marbles much below 65 MPH and shouldn't be used in any event below that. It makes a big difference by installing it, however don't lug the engine much below 2300 rpm's in any gear especially the upper gears.

Maybe this will help.

RPM's vs Speed 5 6 Speeds - Harley Davidson Community

Sgt York · Aug 25th, 2008, 12:37 PM

Thanks Glider. I hope to get the IDS installed this weekend. Waiting on bearing and spacers.

Sgt York · Aug 26th, 2008, 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glider

Without the IDS installed 6th gear would sound like a can if marbles much below 65 MPH and shouldn't be used in any event below that. It makes a big difference by installing it, however don't lug the engine much below 2300 rpm's in any gear especially the upper gears.

Maybe this will help.

RPM's vs Speed 5 6 Speeds - Harley Davidson Community

Thanks glider. I ran it that way for 2K miles (2000 rpm). Any chance it did any damage by running the RPMs too low?

glider · Aug 26th, 2008, 02:27 PM

Lugging an engine will have it's effects on the bottom end (bearings etc) if done for an extended time. I doubt it had any significant effect for 2K miles.

Nitzo · Aug 26th, 2008, 08:32 PM

Newbie here, so be gentle.....What is IDS? And are you saying that the bike needs to be run above 2300rpm most of the time? I guess my thinking has always been, lower rpm's, better fuel mileage, less engine wear.....

Thanks

glider · Aug 26th, 2008, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nitzo

Newbie here, so be gentle.....What is IDS? And are you saying that the bike needs to be run above 2300rpm most of the time? I guess my thinking has always been, lower rpm's, better fuel mileage, less engine wear.....

Thanks

This is the IDS, works very well.
IDS Drive System - Harley Davidson Community

Not so on your thinking about lower RPM's, actually adding some fuel for a more efficient burn and proper RPM's will give you better MPG. Also lower RPM's is more stress on bearings, rods, crank and other parts as well.

Just think of it this way, a crank spinning up a bit and rotating freely as compared to a crank that is being lugged where each pulse of the cylinder firing will thrust the rod against the crank. Which do you think will live longer?

smitty901 · Aug 26th, 2008, 10:41 PM

I have had no problems running 6th a 60 on normal highways

glider · Aug 26th, 2008, 10:54 PM

It'll do it Smitty on flat ground but any type of incline will be where the problems start with lugging and maybe even driveline clatter too, just not a good practice with a 96.

sharpscuba · Aug 26th, 2008, 11:07 PM

I agree Glider my bike likes to go into 6th at 70. But of course here in wisconsin we are not allowed to go that fast...right?

Aug 25th, 2008, 11:34 AM	#1 (permalink)
Sgt York Warming The Wheels Ride: 2007 Electric Glide Classic Join Date: Jul 28th, 2008 Location: Middleton, TN Posts: 72	Shift points on 07 EG I took my EG to Bumpus for service and asked about the 5th gear noise. Their answer confused me. The manual (yes I did read it as I plan on keeping it forever and driving it until the wheels fall off) states that the shift points are: 1st 15 2nd 25 3rd 30 4th 40 5th 48 6th 55 Which is about 2000 RPM. The dealer said that the manual was wrong and I should not even go into 6th untill I hit 75-80 MPH. Is this right?? Not any speed limits that fast around here. What speeds is the correct speeds to shift at for fuel economy and still not lug the engine? Thanks. __________________ Semper Fi USMC 1968 - 1971 Vietnam 1968-1969

Aug 25th, 2008, 11:56 AM	#2 (permalink)
glider Community Liaison Ride: 07 Road King Classic Join Date: Jun 21st, 2007 Posts: 11,626 My Mood:	Re: Shift points on 07 EG Without the IDS installed 6th gear would sound like a can if marbles much below 65 MPH and shouldn't be used in any event below that. It makes a big difference by installing it, however don't lug the engine much below 2300 rpm's in any gear especially the upper gears. Maybe this will help. RPM's vs Speed 5 6 Speeds - Harley Davidson Community __________________ Psssst! Please stop by the "self help section" for maintenance tips, diagnostic codes and much more. click me!>>Self Help Information and Tips<< click me!

Aug 25th, 2008, 12:37 PM	#3 (permalink)
Sgt York Warming The Wheels Ride: 2007 Electric Glide Classic Join Date: Jul 28th, 2008 Location: Middleton, TN Posts: 72	Re: Shift points on 07 EG Thanks Glider. I hope to get the IDS installed this weekend. Waiting on bearing and spacers. __________________ Semper Fi USMC 1968 - 1971 Vietnam 1968-1969

Aug 26th, 2008, 02:27 PM	#5 (permalink)
glider Community Liaison Ride: 07 Road King Classic Join Date: Jun 21st, 2007 Posts: 11,626 My Mood:	Re: Shift points on 07 EG Lugging an engine will have it's effects on the bottom end (bearings etc) if done for an extended time. I doubt it had any significant effect for 2K miles. __________________ Psssst! Please stop by the "self help section" for maintenance tips, diagnostic codes and much more. click me!>>Self Help Information and Tips<< click me!

Aug 26th, 2008, 08:32 PM	#6 (permalink)
Nitzo Frozen Account Ride: 2008 FLHT-Standard Join Date: Jul 23rd, 2008 Location: Daytona Beach Posts: 27	Re: Shift points on 07 EG Newbie here, so be gentle.....What is IDS? And are you saying that the bike needs to be run above 2300rpm most of the time? I guess my thinking has always been, lower rpm's, better fuel mileage, less engine wear..... Thanks

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Aug 26th, 2008, 10:41 PM	#8 (permalink)
smitty901 Moderators Ride: 2007 Road glide Join Date: Jan 1st, 2008 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 2,418 My Mood:	Re: Shift points on 07 EG I have had no problems running 6th a 60 on normal highways __________________ The Infantry leads the way

Aug 26th, 2008, 10:54 PM	#9 (permalink)
glider Community Liaison Ride: 07 Road King Classic Join Date: Jun 21st, 2007 Posts: 11,626 My Mood:	Re: Shift points on 07 EG It'll do it Smitty on flat ground but any type of incline will be where the problems start with lugging and maybe even driveline clatter too, just not a good practice with a 96. __________________ Psssst! Please stop by the "self help section" for maintenance tips, diagnostic codes and much more. click me!>>Self Help Information and Tips<< click me!

Aug 26th, 2008, 11:07 PM	#10 (permalink)
sharpscuba Warming The Wheels Ride: 2007flhtc Join Date: Jul 4th, 2008 Location: Belgium Wi. Posts: 94 My Mood:	Re: Shift points on 07 EG I agree Glider my bike likes to go into 6th at 70. But of course here in wisconsin we are not allowed to go that fast...right?

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