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BUBBIE · Apr 29th, 2011, 11:22 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by parkerro View Post

Sorry for the confusion on the HD SIM, I got lazy in my typing. HD SYN 3 Oil. The Dealer said all the bearings were shot in the Transmission and had to be replaced. I took my FLHTCI in for the bearing noise (22 Aril 2011) the dealer now has 3 other Touring bikes with the same problem. I will be changing transmission and primary oils real soon. I enjoy this bike, I put those miles on from Nov 2010 thru April 2011. This summer will see a lot more. Thanks for all the information and advice.

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Some of OUR members get a little HOT around the collars when I type this...

If using syn3 in all three holes,,,, YOU are Bound to have Problems in at least TWO of them...

Many problems in the Primary Clutch Parts could be avoided IF you used a good Primary Lube - (Wet clutch approved) other than Syn 3.....

MOST Problems involving TRANNY's ,,,, FOLLOWED with statements like:The HD was filled with SYN 3... In all 3 holes..

I Have YET to have heard of Tranny problems when using Redline Shockproof Heavy or Spectro 6 speed GEAR OIL from the start....

Now the Main Word here is "GEAR OIL"..... Then it is Preference of Which GEAR OIL You want to use....

I base this opinion of mine on the problems that HAVE cropped up and been AIRED on HDT.com..

Use what you want BUT IF NOT Gear Oil, and a good Grade of it, You'll be back here some day, MAYBE Not Right Off but SOON with a post that says I have a Bearing Problem in My Tranny.... I used Syn3 like the HD Dealer suggested...

signed....BUBBIE

Hoople · Apr 29th, 2011, 11:30 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by parkerro View Post

The Dealer said all the bearings were shot in the Transmission and had to be replaced.

I bet that magnetic drain plug was a real sight.

BUBBIE · Apr 29th, 2011, 12:04 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Hoople View Post

I bet that magnetic drain plug was a real sight.

Hoople,

Thank you.

I should of mentioned that With Redline Shockproof Heavy Gear Lube;

I have Never had Any metal on the magnetic drain plug NEVER EVER in ANY and ALL my bikes...

IF you are NOW using Syn3 in your tyranny,,,, When Drained LOOK or ASK to LOOK at the magnetic plug before it is Cleaned Off.... I will BET there is Metal Fuzz on it, that Would Not be there IF you used a good quality GEAR OIL,,, And MY Preference is Redline Shockproof Heavy...

I don't say No Metal on Using gear oil Just SAYING when I uses the REDLINE...

I will NOT try other Brands Again in my tyranny,,,,,,

I have had in the Past ,,,,, Used Other BRANDS that showed Metal On the Magnetic Plug In abundance..... YES I did have Syn 3 in a bike once and Once was enough.... Never again !!!

I have had the Best Results with My product of Choice.... Redline Shockproof Heavy

signed....BUBBIE

HDDon · Apr 29th, 2011, 12:13 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Hoople View Post

I bet that magnetic drain plug was a real sight.

Hoople I'm sure the drain plug mag was full and once that happens all the remaining bits and pieces just fly around doing more damage. Many people will automaticly go with the HD product because that is what is reccomended by the dealer and the dealer is told by the MOCO that is what they should use. If everyone did their homework they would soon see that there are different products that work very well with their Harley and some even better. JMHO Don

~~doctordoug~~ · Apr 29th, 2011, 12:14 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by BUBBIE View Post

Hoople,

Thank you.

I should of mentioned that With Redline Shockproof Heavy Gear Lube;

I have Never had Any metal on the magnetic drain plug NEVER EVER in ANY and ALL my bikes...

IF you are NOW using Syn3 in your tyranny,,,, When Drained LOOK or ASK to LOOK at the magnetic plug before it is Cleaned Off.... I will BET there is Metal Fuzz on it, that Would Not be there IF you used a good quality GEAR OIL,,, And MY Preference is Redline Shockproof Heavy...

I don't say No Metal on Using gear oil Just SAYING when I uses the REDLINE...

I will NOT try other Brands Again in my tyranny,,,,,,

I have had in the Past ,,,,, Used Other BRANDS that showed Metal On the Magnetic Plug In abundance..... YES I did have Syn 3 in a bike once and Once was enough.... Never again !!!

I have had the Best Results with My product of Choice.... Redline Shockproof Heavy

signed....BUBBIE

Could you clarify which brand of transmission gear oil you prefer? Is it Redline Shock Proof. Your comments were unclear!

BUBBIE · Apr 29th, 2011, 12:29 PM

[QUOTE=doctordoug

Is it Redline Shock Proof. Your comments were unclear!
************************************************
Sunny and Clear here today,,,,,,, REDLINE SHOCKPROOF HEAVY...

signed....BUBBIE

glider · Apr 29th, 2011, 12:34 PM

Whadidhesay?

HDDon · Apr 29th, 2011, 02:17 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by glider View Post

Whadidhesay?

Whatsamattayou? He said it was clear and sunny!!

glider · Apr 29th, 2011, 05:48 PM

That's what I thought, Thanks!

Jack Klarich · Apr 29th, 2011, 06:21 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by parkerro View Post

Sorry for the confusion on the HD SIM, I got lazy in my typing. HD SYN 3 Oil. The Dealer said all the bearings were shot in the Transmission and had to be replaced. I took my FLHTCI in for the bearing noise (22 Aril 2011) the dealer now has 3 other Touring bikes with the same problem. I will be changing transmission and primary oils real soon. I enjoy this bike, I put those miles on from Nov 2010 thru April 2011. This summer will see a lot more. Thanks for all the information and advice.

Looks like this dealer did not hear about the down side of Syn 3 in the tranny, Seems to me American Iron did a story on this and the dealers were advised not to run it in the tranny any more because of high failure rates HMMMM

Apr 29th, 2011, 11:22 AM	#11
BUBBIE Contributor$ Ride: FLHR 09 Join Date: Oct 15th, 2008 Location: AZ, S.East corner/Western WA. Posts: 3,988 My Mood:	Re: Transmission Bearing failure Quote: Originally Posted by parkerro View Post Sorry for the confusion on the HD SIM, I got lazy in my typing. HD SYN 3 Oil. The Dealer said all the bearings were shot in the Transmission and had to be replaced. I took my FLHTCI in for the bearing noise (22 Aril 2011) the dealer now has 3 other Touring bikes with the same problem. I will be changing transmission and primary oils real soon. I enjoy this bike, I put those miles on from Nov 2010 thru April 2011. This summer will see a lot more. Thanks for all the information and advice. ************************************************ Some of OUR members get a little HOT around the collars when I type this... If using syn3 in all three holes,,,, YOU are Bound to have Problems in at least TWO of them... Many problems in the Primary Clutch Parts could be avoided IF you used a good Primary Lube - (Wet clutch approved) other than Syn 3..... MOST Problems involving TRANNY's ,,,, FOLLOWED with statements like:The HD was filled with SYN 3... In all 3 holes.. I Have YET to have heard of Tranny problems when using Redline Shockproof Heavy or Spectro 6 speed GEAR OIL from the start.... Now the Main Word here is "GEAR OIL"..... Then it is Preference of Which GEAR OIL You want to use.... I base this opinion of mine on the problems that HAVE cropped up and been AIRED on HDT.com.. Use what you want BUT IF NOT Gear Oil, and a good Grade of it, You'll be back here some day, MAYBE Not Right Off but SOON with a post that says I have a Bearing Problem in My Tranny.... I used Syn3 like the HD Dealer suggested... signed....BUBBIE __________________ *********************** Quite Often I am Right so Forgive me when I'm WRONG!!!.......

Apr 29th, 2011, 11:30 AM	#12
Hoople Contributor$ Ride: 2009 Dyna Low Join Date: Aug 16th, 2009 Posts: 7,002	Re: Transmission Bearing failure Quote: Originally Posted by parkerro View Post The Dealer said all the bearings were shot in the Transmission and had to be replaced. I bet that magnetic drain plug was a real sight. __________________ When all else fails, hit the turbo entabulator button. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLDgQg6bq7o

Apr 29th, 2011, 12:04 PM	#13
BUBBIE Contributor$ Ride: FLHR 09 Join Date: Oct 15th, 2008 Location: AZ, S.East corner/Western WA. Posts: 3,988 My Mood:	Re: Transmission Bearing failure Quote: Originally Posted by Hoople View Post I bet that magnetic drain plug was a real sight. Hoople, Thank you. I should of mentioned that With Redline Shockproof Heavy Gear Lube; I have Never had Any metal on the magnetic drain plug NEVER EVER in ANY and ALL my bikes... IF you are NOW using Syn3 in your tyranny,,,, When Drained LOOK or ASK to LOOK at the magnetic plug before it is Cleaned Off.... I will BET there is Metal Fuzz on it, that Would Not be there IF you used a good quality GEAR OIL,,, And MY Preference is Redline Shockproof Heavy... I don't say No Metal on Using gear oil Just SAYING when I uses the REDLINE... I will NOT try other Brands Again in my tyranny,,,,,, I have had in the Past ,,,,, Used Other BRANDS that showed Metal On the Magnetic Plug In abundance..... YES I did have Syn 3 in a bike once and Once was enough.... Never again !!! I have had the Best Results with My product of Choice.... Redline Shockproof Heavy signed....BUBBIE __________________ ************************* Quite Often I am Right so Forgive me when I'm WRONG!!!.......

Apr 29th, 2011, 12:13 PM	#14
HDDon Retired Moderators Ride: 2005 FLTRI Join Date: Aug 28th, 2009 Location: Suwannee, Fl Posts: 4,082 My Mood:	Re: Transmission Bearing failure Quote: Originally Posted by Hoople View Post I bet that magnetic drain plug was a real sight. Hoople I'm sure the drain plug mag was full and once that happens all the remaining bits and pieces just fly around doing more damage. Many people will automaticly go with the HD product because that is what is reccomended by the dealer and the dealer is told by the MOCO that is what they should use. If everyone did their homework they would soon see that there are different products that work very well with their Harley and some even better. JMHO Don

Apr 29th, 2011, 12:14 PM	#15
~~doctordoug~~ Account Removed Ride: 2009 deluxe Join Date: Jan 15th, 2011 Location: Portland,Or Posts: 138 My Mood:	Re: Transmission Bearing failure Quote: Originally Posted by BUBBIE View Post Hoople, Thank you. I should of mentioned that With Redline Shockproof Heavy Gear Lube; I have Never had Any metal on the magnetic drain plug NEVER EVER in ANY and ALL my bikes... IF you are NOW using Syn3 in your tyranny,,,, When Drained LOOK or ASK to LOOK at the magnetic plug before it is Cleaned Off.... I will BET there is Metal Fuzz on it, that Would Not be there IF you used a good quality GEAR OIL,,, And MY Preference is Redline Shockproof Heavy... I don't say No Metal on Using gear oil Just SAYING when I uses the REDLINE... I will NOT try other Brands Again in my tyranny,,,,,, I have had in the Past ,,,,, Used Other BRANDS that showed Metal On the Magnetic Plug In abundance..... YES I did have Syn 3 in a bike once and Once was enough.... Never again !!! I have had the Best Results with My product of Choice.... Redline Shockproof Heavy signed....BUBBIE Could you clarify which brand of transmission gear oil you prefer? Is it Redline Shock Proof. Your comments were unclear!

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Apr 29th, 2011, 12:29 PM	#16
BUBBIE Contributor$ Ride: FLHR 09 Join Date: Oct 15th, 2008 Location: AZ, S.East corner/Western WA. Posts: 3,988 My Mood:	Re: Transmission Bearing failure [QUOTE=doctordoug Is it Redline Shock Proof. Your comments were unclear! ********************************************** Sunny and Clear here today,,,,,,, REDLINE SHOCKPROOF HEAVY... signed....BUBBIE __________________ *********************** Quite Often I am Right so Forgive me when I'm WRONG!!!.......

Apr 29th, 2011, 12:34 PM	#17
glider Frozen Account Ride: 07 Road King Join Date: Jun 21st, 2007 Posts: 25,999 My Mood:	Re: Transmission Bearing failure Whadidhesay?

Apr 29th, 2011, 02:17 PM	#18
HDDon Retired Moderators Ride: 2005 FLTRI Join Date: Aug 28th, 2009 Location: Suwannee, Fl Posts: 4,082 My Mood:	Re: Transmission Bearing failure Quote: Originally Posted by glider View Post Whadidhesay? Whatsamattayou? He said it was clear and sunny!!

Apr 29th, 2011, 05:48 PM	#19
glider Frozen Account Ride: 07 Road King Join Date: Jun 21st, 2007 Posts: 25,999 My Mood:	Re: Transmission Bearing failure That's what I thought, Thanks!

Apr 29th, 2011, 06:21 PM	#20
Jack Klarich Contributor$ Ride: 2007 Streetbob Join Date: Sep 25th, 2009 Location: Jacksonville, Florida Posts: 13,620 My Mood:	Re: Transmission Bearing failure Quote: Originally Posted by parkerro View Post Sorry for the confusion on the HD SIM, I got lazy in my typing. HD SYN 3 Oil. The Dealer said all the bearings were shot in the Transmission and had to be replaced. I took my FLHTCI in for the bearing noise (22 Aril 2011) the dealer now has 3 other Touring bikes with the same problem. I will be changing transmission and primary oils real soon. I enjoy this bike, I put those miles on from Nov 2010 thru April 2011. This summer will see a lot more. Thanks for all the information and advice. Looks like this dealer did not hear about the down side of Syn 3 in the tranny, Seems to me American Iron did a story on this and the dealers were advised not to run it in the tranny any more because of high failure rates HMMMM __________________ CAPITAL JACK( Nuff Said, We're Burnin Daylight, Let's Ride)

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