This seat was given to me buy a guy at a gas station he was on a fatbob and i commented on how i would like a solo seat. he said follow me (he lived 2 blocks away) he would not accept payment for the seat, he said his son in law found it in a house he purchased. as much as i tried he would not accept, Thank you again CW i hope you joined HDtalking. one thing for sure every time i run into him (CW) he will be getting a free lunch: i plan to disassemble the back and chrome then use saddle soap to clean. i have been told by the local saddlery to use Pure Neatsfoot Oil to soften the leather after the soap. has anyone had any experience with the Pure Neatsfoot Oil? i have also been told that it could stain your clothes and my back end looks strange enough with out a stain. once again CW thank you, i hope you joined us...IOU my hat is off to you :hii i might add that CW just traded in his 07 (1200 sporty) with 70,000 miles. his fatbob was 10 days old and already had 1,500.