Well I'm in love with this '05 fatboy I aquired recently...and it has brought alot of peace and happiness so far but... These V&H big radius pipes are a little louder than I'd like. Or maybe it's the tone. I'm not sure. I've heard bikes with the 88B with Vance & Hines bigshots and quiet baffles installed. I thought they sounded great. More "rumble" and a little quieter. Problem is I've only heard that set-up in you-tube videos. Do you think I would get the sound I'm looking for with V&H bigshots w/quiet baffles?