Thanks Chopper, found it. I entered several searches in the Search Forum box, but just like Google, I don't seem to be able to define my searches properly and am flooded with pages of links. Still learning. My hat's off to Speed and all the other moderators for a fantastic site. I tried others at first but it wasn't long for Glider and the rest to get my respect. Their credibility shone threw very quickly. Tons of help for a newbie lick me and always done with humor and patience. Thanks very much guys.