Well I finnally made up my mind after reading several posts on this topic. I ordered the V&H Power duels and monster ovals for my bike. The only thing I have not ordered yet is a Power Comander, but the dealer had plenty of these in stock. Just wondering what to expect without the Power Comander, which I want to buy soon as well? Just have to get a few more bucks Currently have just the SE air cleaner and stage 1 download.