Can't get Neutral or First

Discussion in 'Transmission' started by shack01, Jul 24, 2013.

  1. shack01

    shack01 New Member

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    Haven't seen this issue addressed here, so here goes. Heading home after a short putt to the grocery. As I pulled away from the intersection and turned left, I heard a sound that I thought was the kickstand dragging, as if it wasn't fully up and was tinking along the pavement in the left turn. When I pulled into the neighborhood three blocks later, I could not get the tranny into Neutral or First. 2-5 seemed to be OK, but rather than do more damage experimenting, I parked and shut down.

    Right now its on the lift, still in second gear, with all fluids drained in anticipation of some serious de-construction. So before I go any further tho, I am hoping someone has some ideas of where to start.

    Thanks in advance for helping out a Noob. At least to this site. 2003 FXDWG that I have been riding since new.

    tony
     
  2. dbmg

    dbmg Experienced Member

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    Look at clutch cable operation first. Some times as the cable starts to break you do not have enough pull to disengage and engage lower gears...... Are you able to shift into nuetral on lift????
     
  3. shack01

    shack01 New Member

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    Nope, can't pull the shifter up past second. I will check the clutch cable, tho, but not tonight. To much happy hour at this point ! :^)

    tony

    P.S. Thanks for the reply.
     
  4. dbmg

    dbmg Experienced Member

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    Be sure to throughly check the pivot for shifter. At times splines become corroded and will not pivot properly. Disassemble clean and lube.
     
  5. Breeze3at

    Breeze3at Well-Known Member

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    Conflicting information here. "2-5 seem ok" then "can't pull shifter up past second".
    Does the lever return to center after pushing down or pulling up?
     
  6. doctor727

    doctor727 Active Member

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    Check the shift lever at the transmission for security. Disconnect the tranny from the shift rod and see if it shifts down. If not, you need to take the trans out and apart. At least that what it sounds like.
     
  7. mouthful

    mouthful Active Member

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    When was the last time the clutch was properly adjusted? Possible stretched cable. Maybe.
     
  8. Jack Klarich

    Jack Klarich Expert Member

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    [​IMG] Here is an exploded view of your tranny shift mechanism, have a look at the shifter return spring, common failure 1 609 PIN 4 1.49 0.99
    2 856A SCREW 1 1.49 0.99
    3 3784 SET SCREW, SHF. FORK SHAFT - LEFT 1 8.49 6.99
    5 3909 SCREW 4 1.49 0.99
    6 4017 BOLT 1 1.49 0.99
    8 6497HW WASHER 1 1.99 1.49
    9 6702 WASHER 1 0.49 0.49
    10 7041 WASHER 1 0.99 0.49
    12 7736 ACORN NUT 1 2.99 2.49
    13 9837 BALL BEARING 2 6.49 5.49
    14 11150 RETAINING RING 1 0.99 0.49
    16 11319A RETAINING RING 2 1.49 0.99
    17 11342 RETAINING RING 1 3.99 2.99
    18 11739A SHIFTER ROD 1 18.00 14.99
    19 12045 SEAL 1 2.99 2.49
    20 33708-94 BEARING SLEEVE 2 2.49 1.99
    22 33789-03 SHIFT LEVER 1 52.49 43.49
    23 33301-00A SUPPORT ASSEMBLY, SHIFTER CAM -LEFT, WITH BEARING AND RETAINING RING 1 47.49 39.49
    24 33304-00 SUPPORT ASSEMBLY, SHIFTER CAM -RIGHT, WITH BEARING AND RETAINING RING 1 25.49 21.49
    25 33364-00A DETENT FOLLOWER ASSEMBLY 1 6.99 5.99
    26 33374-00 SPRING, DETENT ARM 1 8.49 6.99
    27 33375-00A SLEEVE, DETENT ARM SPRING 1 4.49 3.49
    28 33376-00 PIVOT SCREW, DETENT ARM 1 1.49 0.99
    29 33383-02 SHIFTER CAM 1 116.99 96.99
    30 33849-97 LEVER, SHIFTER ROD 1 21.99 18.49
    31 34088-87A SHAFT, SHIFTER FORK 1 9.99 7.99
    32 34064-00B SPRING, SHIFT LEVER CENTERING 1 1.99 1.49
    33 34191-79E SHIFTER FORK 1 50.99 42.49
    34 34193-79E SHIFTER FORK 1 50.99 42.49
    35 34195-79E SHIFTER FORK 1 50.99 42.49
    37 34564-90A SHIFT LEVER (CHROME) 1 53.99 44.99
    38 34611-65 PEG, SHIFT LEVER 1 10.49 8.49
    42 34972-02B LEVER ASSEMBLY, SHIFTER PAWL 1 81.49 67.49
    43 34977-02A SPRING, SHIFTER SHAFT LEVER 1 1.99 1.49
    44 34978-00A CENTERING PIN 1 29.99 24.99
     
    Last edited: Jul 25, 2013
  9. shack01

    shack01 New Member

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    Thanks all. Looks like the clutch adjustment will be first followed by the hunt for the return spring.

    Sorry for the confusion, Breeze3at. The bike is parked with the tranny in second. Before I parked it, I could shift 2-3-4-5 and back 5-4-3-2, but that was it. Couldn't get from second to Neutral and therefore First was also unavailable. Hope that clears up my predicament.

    Won't be able to tackle it for a week due to that pesky work thing. I'll post what I find later.

    tony
     
  10. HDDon

    HDDon Experienced Member Contributor Retired Moderators

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    Please keep us posted on the results. Judging from the views many are following this thread. Good luck.