Ok with the knowledge that I have over the years "not with Harley's" bikes in general,a little voice in my head kept telling me its the battery,well come to be I put a analyzer / charger on the battery an it faulted ! so I borrowed a battery from my friends Fat Boy and what do you know LIGHTS ON IGNITION SIDE !!! thats as far as i have gotten but it looks good,will come back with the final out come,but in advance THANKS FOR ALL YOUR TIME AN THOUGHT HOOPLE ! 
