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Old Aug 8th, 2008, 02:30 PM     #1
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updgrades to exhaust

Okay, so I have been looking at upgrading my 883 sportster exhaust to something that makes it sound more like a harley. It doesn't sound bad now, just want a little more. I think I have settled on the Rush slip ons, as I like their loudness and low tone. My local HD has them for $299.99, though I may be able to find them online cheaper. But I do have some questions..

My dealer says to get the exhaust, put it one, then bring the bike in for a stage 1 download ($149.99) to richen up the bike, and also a high flow air cleaner ($149.99)

Now here are my questions:

Do you HAVE to have a stage 1 download for just putting slip ons - on?

Could I get the stage 1 download first, run the bike stock, and then a few weeks later add the exhaust, then a few weeks after that, get the air cleaner? Is the air cleaner mandatory?

Now, bike is still new (only has 200 miles on it), do I need to wait, or should I wait past the 1000 miles to do any upgrades? After the break in period?

And lastly....does any of the above mentioned void the two year warranty?

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Old Aug 8th, 2008, 02:38 PM     #2
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Re: updgrades to exhaust

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1st non of it will void the warranty - if it they say it does mention they HAVE TO PROVE the parts caused the failure and also mention the Magnusson Moss Act

2nd do all the work yourself including the fuel upgrade.

the ECM flash for $150 is almost the price of a proper fuel manager that will give you better control and not alter the stock ECM.

for me i would save your all your money and do it all in one go and do the following

the Rush Slip ons you like
a fuel manger like the TFI
and a filter kit of your choice.


with the ECM flash it is still lean to get it through the EPA/CARB regs you guys have, so it will still run lean.

this is only a suggestion

the bike with the stock air box and no flash may get you by and may cope with the slip ons but will still be lean as they are lean from the factory
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Old Aug 8th, 2008, 05:33 PM     #3
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Re: updgrades to exhaust

thanks hobbit for the reply. I guess when we say lean, I am talking lean enough to hurt the engine, so in that case, would slip ons with stock air box and no flash be too lean? I have seen some people claiming that the rush slip ons have back pressure close to that of stock.

I know everyone says the bikes are lean from the factory to pass EPA stuff in california, but here in indiana we don't have to do EPA checks, so no one gives a hoot.

What are some good air cleaners and management systems so I can start looking at them....do you need to understand "fuel injection talk" to have on on your bike, e.g. high learning curve? Also, best place to get slip ons? or is the dealer price about the price anywhere?
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Re: updgrades to exhaust

ok no higher learning is required for FI
the simplest and one that works for the fuel management is the TFI
see here Motorcycle Fuel Injection Kits and Electronic Fuel Injection Systems - EFI
air cleaners i am partial to the SE stuff but others like the Arlen Ness big sucker, forcewinder and so on.
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Old Aug 10th, 2008, 01:58 PM     #5
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Re: updgrades to exhaust

thanks again hobbit for the reply. Should slip on's and air cleaners wait until the bike has passed break in period? or would it matter?
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Re: updgrades to exhaust

It really makes no difference at all even if you went with synthetic oil too.
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Old Sep 9th, 2008, 11:15 PM     #7
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Re: updgrades to exhaust

I've been reading as many of the posts as possible for the stage 1 upgrade, so I hope you don't mind if I jump on this thread a little late, but if you do the slip ons, the tfi and new breather, do you still need to rejet the carb, or does the tfi correct that? Or is rejetting the carb a poor-man's version of a tfi?
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Re: updgrades to exhaust

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I've been reading as many of the posts as possible for the stage 1 upgrade, so I hope you don't mind if I jump on this thread a little late, but if you do the slip ons, the tfi and new breather, do you still need to rejet the carb, or does the tfi correct that? Or is rejetting the carb a poor-man's version of a tfi?
TFI is is for fuel injected bikes. If my memory is correct, 2007 was the first year for fuel injection on the Sportster model. Carb re-jetting would be for pre 2007 Sportsters. My wife has a 2007 883L with Cycle Shack slip-ons and the download to richen it up. I have a 2004 XL883 with Cycle Shack slip-ons and a K&N breather. I re-jetted the carb to richen it up. Not sure if that sheds light on your question, but I tried
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Re: updgrades to exhaust

I can only relay what my HD Dealer told me, with the Rush slip-ons (which I have) you DONOT have to do anything on th FI models. I put mine on with only 150 miles on the bike. No problems whatsoever.
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I can only relay what my HD Dealer told me, with the Rush slip-ons (which I have) you DONOT have to do anything on th FI models. I put mine on with only 150 miles on the bike. No problems whatsoever.
AND the dealer told you the truth
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