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Randall K. Wilson · Aug 9th, 2010, 10:49 PM

When my machine had 1,200 miles I had the first service and the dealer put HD sythetic oil in it. Now I have 4,175 and I changed it today myself. I focused on the engine. I went right by the whiz bang by golly HD service manual. The thick one the size of a phone book.

Using the "wet" refill method and a new filter I poured 3 1/2 quarts of Red Line Synthetic 20W50 in the filler hole.

Looking at this site I noticed (after the fact) a discussion of using a method to rid the engine "oil galleries" of dirty oil. Since I did not use this method am I a mechanical boob? Another thing. I am going to recheck it tomorrow, but it looks to me that the level of oil on the dip-stick is way over what it should be.

Any thoughts or comments on my service program? Please respond.

RKW

Animal · Aug 9th, 2010, 10:57 PM

Trying to get out all the "dirty" oil is more effort then it's worth. If you have checked the level after running the engine till operating temp. and it's over the full mark you will have to drain some out.

Randall K. Wilson · Aug 9th, 2010, 11:03 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Animal View Post

Trying to get out all the "dirty" oil is more effort then it's worth. If you have checked the level after running the engine till operating temp. and it's over the full mark you will have to drain some out.

GGGGGRRRRRRR

Oh, thanks for the help.

biscuit · Aug 9th, 2010, 11:06 PM

I bought a glass Turkey baster to suck excess oil from the oil tank on my bike.

It may be a slower method,but it's a lot more accurate.And you don't get to the point of "Whoops,i've drained too much!"

Davidw2415 · Aug 9th, 2010, 11:11 PM

Did you get the bike to opperating temps. before you drained the old oil out? If not there may have been to much left behind. When I change my oil I always follow a great tip of Smitty's and measure the amount that is drained and replace with the same amount.

Hoople · Aug 9th, 2010, 11:13 PM

Don't overfill the oil tank (hot level). I did one time and oil started coming out the air filter breather tubes.

Randall K. Wilson · Aug 10th, 2010, 12:25 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Davidw2415 View Post

Did you get the bike to opperating temps. before you drained the old oil out? If not there may have been to much left behind. When I change my oil I always follow a great tip of Smitty's and measure the amount that is drained and replace with the same amount.

Yes it was hot. To hot to touch the oil filter.
Smitty has always been a wise ole owl.

Randall K. Wilson · Aug 10th, 2010, 09:00 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by biscuit View Post

I bought a glass Turkey baster to suck excess oil from the oil tank on my bike.

It may be a slower method,but it's a lot more accurate.And you don't get to the point of "Whoops,i've drained too much!"

The glass turkey baster may just mysteriously disappear from my wife's kitchen drawer today.

I have until Thanksgiving to replace it!

Jack Klarich · Aug 10th, 2010, 12:48 PM

I have always used a bit less than what The Bible says when changing oil, dont want that mess puking out the AC

candave650 · Aug 10th, 2010, 02:54 PM

I agree I don't want any puking so I use less than full spec(about 1/2 way on the stick when hot).For my bike a full change with filter is 2.4 l. YMMV

Aug 9th, 2010, 10:57 PM	#2
Animal Community Star Ride: 2005 Ultra Classic Join Date: May 18th, 2008 Location: Calgary Alberta Canada Posts: 386 My Mood:	Re: '09 Softail Deluxe Oil Change. Trying to get out all the "dirty" oil is more effort then it's worth. If you have checked the level after running the engine till operating temp. and it's over the full mark you will have to drain some out. __________________ Northern Rider

Aug 9th, 2010, 11:03 PM	#3
Randall K. Wilson Community Star Ride: 2003 FLHRI Join Date: Aug 27th, 2008 Location: Morristown, IN Posts: 535	Re: '09 Softail Deluxe Oil Change. Quote: Originally Posted by Animal View Post Trying to get out all the "dirty" oil is more effort then it's worth. If you have checked the level after running the engine till operating temp. and it's over the full mark you will have to drain some out. GGGGGRRRRRRR Oh, thanks for the help.

Aug 9th, 2010, 11:06 PM	#4
biscuit Community Star Ride: 2008 softail deluxe Join Date: Aug 25th, 2007 Location: Brisbane Queensland AUSTRALIA Posts: 519	Re: '09 Softail Deluxe Oil Change. I bought a glass Turkey baster to suck excess oil from the oil tank on my bike. It may be a slower method,but it's a lot more accurate.And you don't get to the point of "Whoops,i've drained too much!"

Aug 9th, 2010, 11:11 PM	#5
Davidw2415 Community Guru Wannabe Ride: 06 Fat Boy Join Date: Dec 4th, 2007 Posts: 1,447 My Mood:	Re: '09 Softail Deluxe Oil Change. Did you get the bike to opperating temps. before you drained the old oil out? If not there may have been to much left behind. When I change my oil I always follow a great tip of Smitty's and measure the amount that is drained and replace with the same amount. __________________ With every mistake, we must surely be learning.George Harrison If you don't know where your going; any road will get you there. George Harrison

Aug 9th, 2010, 11:13 PM	#6
Hoople Contributor$ Ride: 2009 Dyna Low Join Date: Aug 16th, 2009 Posts: 7,001	Re: '09 Softail Deluxe Oil Change. Don't overfill the oil tank (hot level). I did one time and oil started coming out the air filter breather tubes.

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Aug 10th, 2010, 12:25 AM	#7
Randall K. Wilson Community Star Ride: 2003 FLHRI Join Date: Aug 27th, 2008 Location: Morristown, IN Posts: 535	Re: '09 Softail Deluxe Oil Change. Quote: Originally Posted by Davidw2415 View Post Did you get the bike to opperating temps. before you drained the old oil out? If not there may have been to much left behind. When I change my oil I always follow a great tip of Smitty's and measure the amount that is drained and replace with the same amount. Yes it was hot. To hot to touch the oil filter. Smitty has always been a wise ole owl.

Aug 10th, 2010, 09:00 AM	#8
Randall K. Wilson Community Star Ride: 2003 FLHRI Join Date: Aug 27th, 2008 Location: Morristown, IN Posts: 535	Re: '09 Softail Deluxe Oil Change. Quote: Originally Posted by biscuit View Post I bought a glass Turkey baster to suck excess oil from the oil tank on my bike. It may be a slower method,but it's a lot more accurate.And you don't get to the point of "Whoops,i've drained too much!" The glass turkey baster may just mysteriously disappear from my wife's kitchen drawer today. I have until Thanksgiving to replace it!

Aug 10th, 2010, 12:48 PM	#9
Jack Klarich Contributor$ Ride: 2007 Streetbob Join Date: Sep 25th, 2009 Location: Jacksonville, Florida Posts: 13,577 My Mood:	Re: '09 Softail Deluxe Oil Change. I have always used a bit less than what The Bible says when changing oil, dont want that mess puking out the AC __________________ CAPITAL JACK( Nuff Said, We're Burnin Daylight, Let's Ride)

Aug 10th, 2010, 02:54 PM	#10
candave650 Start The Engine Ride: 2013 FLHR Road King Join Date: Jun 29th, 2010 Location: Fort Erie, Ontario,Canada Posts: 43 My Mood:	Re: '09 Softail Deluxe Oil Change. I agree I don't want any puking so I use less than full spec(about 1/2 way on the stick when hot).For my bike a full change with filter is 2.4 l. YMMV

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