Harley Davidson Community
| Forgot your username or password? | Help!

V-Twin Heat Deflectors & Bike Shades

Hello Guest,
Welcome to the HDTalking, registration is completely FREE and takes only a few seconds. By registering you'll gain: Full Posting Privileges, Access to Private Messaging, Optional Email Notification, Upload Photos, Upload Videos, Respond to Polls, Ability to Fully Participate.

To register now click here!
If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please submit ticket to our helpdesk team.


07' FLSTC Left Ignition On - Dead Battery

Softail Models

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old Nov 14th, 2009, 10:20 PM     #1
Contributor$
Ride: 07' FLSTC
 
nogoslim's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2nd, 2008
Location: Ore-gon
Posts: 135
My Mood: My Mood
nogoslim is an unknown quantity at this point
07' FLSTC Left Ignition On - Dead Battery

Well I finally did it. I have a 2007 FLSTC with a ThunderMax w/autotune. My trouble is I spent 2 hours visiting at a friends house and I left my ignitions on. Needless to say, my battery was dead. No lights or anything electric would work. I hooked it by jumpers to a car battery, motor on car not running, but still no power to anything. I tried to initialize the module, but still no sign of any power to my bike. I checked all my fuses, all test good including the main 40 amp fuse. It was to cold to fool around anymore, so I pulled the battery and got a ride home. My battery is now on a two amp charger while I scan my service manual and my downloaded SmartLink IV Tuning Manual for a heads up lead as to my next step. Thought I'd try posting my dilemma here on HD Talking. Is anyone willing to admit to the same problem that could help me out? I figure after the battery is charged and put back in the bike, I would just try to re-initialize the module and hope it starts. This is my reward for being stupid and leaving the switch on.....
__________________
...Been hateful since birth and I've hated it ever since...
nogoslim is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 14th, 2009, 10:24 PM     #2
Community Star
Ride: FLHTCU
 
RetiredJake's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 19th, 2009
Location: Middle Tennessee
Posts: 598
My Mood: My Mood
RetiredJake is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: 07' FLSTC Left Ignition On - Dead Battery

Don't have an answer to your question, but am very interested in finding out what worked. I have a ThunderMax in my Dyna and have wondered what would happen if I let the battery go dead.

Hope you get it worked out fairly painlessly
__________________
Roaming the country, Tasting the wine,
Having fun, Life is good
RetiredJake is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 14th, 2009, 10:38 PM     #3
Contributor$
Ride: 07' FLSTC
 
nogoslim's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2nd, 2008
Location: Ore-gon
Posts: 135
My Mood: My Mood
nogoslim is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: 07' FLSTC Left Ignition On - Dead Battery

Quote:
Originally Posted by RetiredJake View Post
Don't have an answer to your question, but am very interested in finding out what worked. I have a ThunderMax in my Dyna and have wondered what would happen if I let the battery go dead.

Hope you get it worked out fairly painlessly
Hi Retired Jake, ya I'm the fool who forgot to turn off the ignition. I rode through Tennessee on my 74' Triumph Trident back in 1975. Love those Tennessee hills, wish I was still back there... I'll call Zippers in the morning, they have great customer service. I talked to them back when I didn't have a problem, so I know they'll help me out if I don't find help here...
__________________
...Been hateful since birth and I've hated it ever since...
nogoslim is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 15th, 2009, 11:55 AM     #4
Community Guru Wannabe
Ride: 2007 Streetbob
 
Join Date: Sep 25th, 2009
Location: Jax. Fl.
Posts: 873
My Mood: My Mood
Jack Klarich is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: 07' FLSTC Left Ignition On - Dead Battery

did this with a 80 shovel head burned up the coil lesson learned
Jack Klarich is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 15th, 2009, 12:04 PM     #5
Contributor$
Ride: 2009 Dyna Low
 
Join Date: Aug 16th, 2009
Posts: 1,077
Hoople is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: 07' FLSTC Left Ignition On - Dead Battery

Quote:
Originally Posted by nogoslim View Post
No lights or anything electric would work. I hooked it by jumpers to a car battery, motor on car not running, but still no power to anything.

I can not see how it could be anything more than a dead battery. You should be able to remove the ECM completely and still have Lights. My guess would be when you jumped your battery the jumper cables were not making good contact. I would not have dug up the electronics before I charged my battery. Even if you burned out the coil, I would think the lights would come on.

I know now on some cars the ECM does drive some lights but I don't think that is the case here.
Hoople is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 15th, 2009, 12:57 PM     #6
Moderators
Ride: 2004 Sportster XL1200RS
 
NEWHD74FAN's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 24th, 2008
Location: Camarillo, CA
Posts: 4,945
My Mood: My Mood
NEWHD74FAN is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: 07' FLSTC Left Ignition On - Dead Battery

Nogoslim, likely now a dead battery, as normal float charge type batteries do not fair well to deep discharge. Could be that is all, may also have blown fuse(s) if you jumped the battery from a live running vehicle (source vehicle should be OFF and a "stout jumper cable run between it and the bike).

Hopefully nothing was damaged, but if you had a totally discharged battery and jumped to a live running vehicle, you may get voltage/current transients that could FRY the ECM, TSSM and Voltage Regulator as there is not big battery to suppress them. Deep discharge should NOT require you to reflash firmware in either...the ECM or TSSM.
__________________

Please stop by the "Self Help section" for maintenance tips, diagnostic codes and much more.
>>Self Help Information and Tips<<
NEWHD74FAN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 15th, 2009, 02:56 PM     #7
Account Removed
Ride: 2005 Ultra Classic
 
Join Date: Oct 17th, 2009
Location: Oakdale, Pa.
Posts: 592
My Mood: My Mood
Drumrguy is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: 07' FLSTC Left Ignition On - Dead Battery

I agree, especially if it was cold it probably really killed the battery, ad it is possible for a voltage spike to maybe have damaged something, but hopefulyy not. I would try the recharged battery first.
Drumrguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 15th, 2009, 03:01 PM     #8
Contributor$
Ride: 07' FLSTC
 
nogoslim's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2nd, 2008
Location: Ore-gon
Posts: 135
My Mood: My Mood
nogoslim is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: 07' FLSTC Left Ignition On - Dead Battery

Thanks all. Woke up this morning to green light on my automatic 2 amp charger. I'll be heading back over to put it in my scooter. After a night of reading all the ThunderMax manual information, I am fairly sure it will be ok . The worst, I hope, might just be to initialize the module. I post the results later. Thanks again to all the responses! This truly is a great site, with a wealth of great people and helpful information. Once I get it running, then I can beat myself up for being stupid...
Slim
__________________
...Been hateful since birth and I've hated it ever since...
nogoslim is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 15th, 2009, 03:22 PM     #9
Account Removed
Ride: 2005 Ultra Classic
 
Join Date: Oct 17th, 2009
Location: Oakdale, Pa.
Posts: 592
My Mood: My Mood
Drumrguy is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: 07' FLSTC Left Ignition On - Dead Battery

Hope it starts and you have no problems. Keep us posted.
Drumrguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 15th, 2009, 09:39 PM     #10
Play The Throttle
Ride: 2009 Road King
 
larryjmiller's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 24th, 2008
Location: Moorpark, CA
Posts: 308
My Mood: My Mood
larryjmiller is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: 07' FLSTC Left Ignition On - Dead Battery

Don't beat yourself up. We all do it from time to time. Modern electronics are pretty forgiving. It is what it is. Just move on and try to remember to turn off your key. Went on a ride today and three of the guys left their lights (ign,) on several times and had to be reminded.

Perhaps the MOCO will help us out as we all age and build in an auto "turn off" if ignition left on for say 10 minutes w/o starting engine.
__________________
LOOSE GRAVEL...is there any other kind???
larryjmiller is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off




Click here to report problem banner advertisements on HDTalking site.

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:05 AM.
Copyright © 2009 www.HDTalking.com.All Right Reserved.
HDTalking is not an official and is not associated with Harley Davidson,Inc.
All information contained within this site is copyright HDTalking and may not be reproduced without written permission.
Harley Davidson Forum