V&H exhaust

docholliday88 · Jul 22nd, 2007, 02:29 PM

My dad bought a set of Vance&Hines big radius exhaust pipes for his '07 softtail standard. We were at the dealer planning when we were gonna get them put on and what all had to be done to the bike. the guy at the service desk suggested the SE breather kit with a remap. Is the Remap sufficient, or should he go buy a SERT, PC, FuelPak, etc.? It's fuel injected so I think there's more play inthere than in a Carbureted model, but we're not sure. thanks in advance for the replies.

glider · Jul 22nd, 2007, 04:51 PM

Doc

The SE breather kit (stage 1) with a remap works for some but the remap is still EPA friendly and lean.With the remap your rev limit will be 6200, without it the limit will be 5800. (I have the 5800 with a TFI and it runs well)
I personally would go with an aftermarket tuner ranging from a TFI, PC III or SERT from easiest to a more difficult/involved installation in that order. The TFI is user friendly and an easy install and setup also works well, the others have to be setup and mapped with the use of a computer and a special program that comes with the unit with the SERT, the PCIII has the maps on the internet on the power commander site and can be downloaded. You also have the option like FuelMoto (see below) who is on the internet and will send you the PC III with a map for your bike already installed.
There's a lot of reading in the Fuel injection section of this forum.

http://www.fuelmotousa.com/ < PC III

http://www.dobeckperformance.com/ < TFI

http://www.powercommander.com/eng_default.aspx

SERT is available at your HD dealer.

Be sure which ever way you go that the tuner (mechanic) that will be setting up the bike knows what they are doing.

This will give you more info on the differences between the units.

http://www.hdtalking.com/diagnostics...ifference.html

docholliday88 · Jul 22nd, 2007, 08:28 PM

thanks glider. My dad isn't planning on doing any further mods to the engine, that I know of. He just wants to make his bike louder, now that he hears how my sportster sounds with the shortshots staggered. He does want to do the whole stage 1 just so he doesnt mess the bike up by just adding exhaust.

ekw06deuce · Jul 22nd, 2007, 09:52 PM

doing the SE race fueler or equivilant. is sufficient for just pipes and air cleaner change. i believe vance and hines has a fueler now too.i did my deuce tc88b and it has performed great.

glider · Jul 22nd, 2007, 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ekw06deuce

doing the SE race fueler or equivilant. is sufficient for just pipes and air cleaner change. i believe vance and hines has a fueler now too.i did my deuce tc88b and it has performed great.

Yes they do have the V&H fueler but the support is limited and if you do not use their products (V&H), they do not have the settings to support other aftermarket brands.

Pebbles · Jul 31st, 2007, 06:37 AM

Guys, In Oz I have a 07 Softail Standard with V&H big Radius pipes. Bick Sucker air filter. I put a Thundermax http://www.thunder-max.com/ ECM. It goes like a cut snake and gets a second torque band response with a fistful. A bit of popping on cold days and when commuting. Better maps are on the way to fine tune otherwise very happy. Fuel economy is about 17.5 kms/litre at a combination of highway at 120 kms with about 30 minutes of stop start.

glider · Jul 31st, 2007, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pebbles

Guys, In Oz I have a 07 Softail Standard with V&H big Radius pipes. Bick Sucker air filter. I put a Thundermax http://www.thunder-max.com/ ECM. It goes like a cut snake and gets a second torque band response with a fistful. A bit of popping on cold days and when commuting. Better maps are on the way to fine tune otherwise very happy. Fuel economy is about 17.5 kms/litre at a combination of highway at 120 kms with about 30 minutes of stop start.

Love it.

Here's a good link for the T max

http://www.zippersperformance.com/ca...=588&prod=1415

danielgkelly1984 · Aug 2nd, 2007, 09:55 PM

definetly a fuel pack

CTrian · Sep 23rd, 2007, 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by docholliday88

My dad bought a set of Vance&Hines big radius exhaust pipes for his '07 softtail standard. We were at the dealer planning when we were gonna get them put on and what all had to be done to the bike. the guy at the service desk suggested the SE breather kit with a remap. Is the Remap sufficient, or should he go buy a SERT, PC, FuelPak, etc.? It's fuel injected so I think there's more play inthere than in a Carbureted model, but we're not sure. thanks in advance for the replies.

And it definitely depends on how far you intend to go with your mods .if thats as far as your going to go TFI or H&H fuel pack would be good .But if you are or have intentions of getting into cam's,Head's,basically a 103" down the road you should look into something like SERT, or Thundermax self tuner .I have a TFI tucked under my seat no longer in use due to going to a 103 big bore .I had to go a SERT as the TFI couldn't handle the full kit.

glider · Sep 23rd, 2007, 08:56 PM

CTrain

Did you know that Doebeck has an upgrade for the bigger engines 90+HP - FI-1040HPST TFI Fuel Injection Module ? It's on their site.

Just thought I'd mention it.

Jul 22nd, 2007, 02:29 PM	#1 (permalink)
docholliday88 Warming The Wheels Ride: 2006 Sportster XL1200R Join Date: Jul 7th, 2007 Location: smithfield, NC Posts: 89 My Mood:	V&H exhaust My dad bought a set of Vance&Hines big radius exhaust pipes for his '07 softtail standard. We were at the dealer planning when we were gonna get them put on and what all had to be done to the bike. the guy at the service desk suggested the SE breather kit with a remap. Is the Remap sufficient, or should he go buy a SERT, PC, FuelPak, etc.? It's fuel injected so I think there's more play inthere than in a Carbureted model, but we're not sure. thanks in advance for the replies. __________________ 2006 XL1200R Vance&Hines shortshots staggered SE air cleaner & SE jet kit

Jul 22nd, 2007, 04:51 PM	#2 (permalink)
glider Community Liaison Ride: 07 Road King Classic Join Date: Jun 21st, 2007 Posts: 11,619 My Mood:	Re: V&H exhaust Doc The SE breather kit (stage 1) with a remap works for some but the remap is still EPA friendly and lean.With the remap your rev limit will be 6200, without it the limit will be 5800. (I have the 5800 with a TFI and it runs well) I personally would go with an aftermarket tuner ranging from a TFI, PC III or SERT from easiest to a more difficult/involved installation in that order. The TFI is user friendly and an easy install and setup also works well, the others have to be setup and mapped with the use of a computer and a special program that comes with the unit with the SERT, the PCIII has the maps on the internet on the power commander site and can be downloaded. You also have the option like FuelMoto (see below) who is on the internet and will send you the PC III with a map for your bike already installed. There's a lot of reading in the Fuel injection section of this forum. http://www.fuelmotousa.com/ < PC III http://www.dobeckperformance.com/ < TFI http://www.powercommander.com/eng_default.aspx SERT is available at your HD dealer. Be sure which ever way you go that the tuner (mechanic) that will be setting up the bike knows what they are doing. This will give you more info on the differences between the units. http://www.hdtalking.com/diagnostics...ifference.html __________________ Psssst! Please stop by the "self help section" for maintenance tips, diagnostic codes and much more. click me!>>Self Help Information and Tips<< click me! Last edited by glider : Jul 22nd, 2007 at 04:57 PM.

Jul 22nd, 2007, 08:28 PM	#3 (permalink)
docholliday88 Warming The Wheels Ride: 2006 Sportster XL1200R Join Date: Jul 7th, 2007 Location: smithfield, NC Posts: 89 My Mood:	Re: V&H exhaust thanks glider. My dad isn't planning on doing any further mods to the engine, that I know of. He just wants to make his bike louder, now that he hears how my sportster sounds with the shortshots staggered. He does want to do the whole stage 1 just so he doesnt mess the bike up by just adding exhaust. __________________ 2006 XL1200R Vance&Hines shortshots staggered SE air cleaner & SE jet kit

Jul 22nd, 2007, 09:52 PM	#4 (permalink)
ekw06deuce Warming The Wheels Ride: 2006 Softail Deuce FXSTDI Join Date: Mar 13th, 2007 Location: Charlotte, NC travels to San Angelo, TX, Roanoke Rapids NC and anyplace else I can get in a week Posts: 69	Re: V&H exhaust doing the SE race fueler or equivilant. is sufficient for just pipes and air cleaner change. i believe vance and hines has a fueler now too.i did my deuce tc88b and it has performed great.

Jul 31st, 2007, 06:37 AM	#6 (permalink)
Pebbles New Family Ride: 2007 Softail Standard Join Date: May 31st, 2007 Location: Queensland , Australia Posts: 3 My Mood:	Re: V&H exhaust Guys, In Oz I have a 07 Softail Standard with V&H big Radius pipes. Bick Sucker air filter. I put a Thundermax http://www.thunder-max.com/ ECM. It goes like a cut snake and gets a second torque band response with a fistful. A bit of popping on cold days and when commuting. Better maps are on the way to fine tune otherwise very happy. Fuel economy is about 17.5 kms/litre at a combination of highway at 120 kms with about 30 minutes of stop start. Last edited by Speed : Aug 1st, 2007 at 09:48 AM. Reason: Change URL

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glider Community Liaison Ride: 07 Road King Classic Join Date: Jun 21st, 2007 Posts: 11,619 My Mood:	Re: V&H exhaust CTrain Did you know that Doebeck has an upgrade for the bigger engines 90+HP - FI-1040HPST TFI Fuel Injection Module ? It's on their site. Just thought I'd mention it. __________________ Psssst! Please stop by the "self help section" for maintenance tips, diagnostic codes and much more. click me!>>Self Help Information and Tips<< click me!

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