Oil Filter Poll

glider · Mar 16th, 2009, 07:31 AM

Thanks but at their rated 35 microns even with the hype they have printed, I'll stick with the 5 micron from HD.

I like the wording in this part...

Before you start with the, “my filter is rated at 5 microns and it filters way better,” you need to understand just how the micron rating applies to oil filters. According to K&P Engineering, paper filters are rated on averages, percentages and multiple passes, so a 10-micron-rated paper filter may be letting particles 50 microns and larger through. The medical grade stainless steel cloth they use in their filters is consistent across the entire surface and is rated at 35 microns, meaning nothing larger than 35 microns should pass through the material.

gs34 · Mar 16th, 2009, 01:25 PM

As far as I'm concerned, all the same reasons apply to this filter that apply to the one that Smitty asked about in an earlier post.
In all actuality, this filter is even worse because, not only do you have a can and pieces which are subject to collecting foreign particles while open, you also subject your engine to the introduction of debris with a filter that you must clean by hand!!!
Do you really think you can get it as clean and sanitary as is the media in a factory cartridge filter?

An engineer for the heavy equipment manufacturer for whom I worked for over 30 years once told me this....
It is to our benefit as a manufacturer, as well as our customers benefit, to equip our engines and machinery with the best, most efficient filtration systems that we can. This practice insures that we will limit our warranty problems and maximize longevity and performance for our customers.
I would assume that other manufacturers, such as Harley Davidson, would operate under these same constraints.

NEWHD74FAN · Mar 16th, 2009, 05:08 PM

Quite honestly I was skeptical, but since our poll was about oil filters, if there were users of "other" aftermarket types, I just threw it out there.

Anyone remember the toilet roll paper filter for external cannister type used in old Chevy' at a time when bypass filtering element was used -- paper for paper back in the 50's before the new full flow "spin-on's" in the 50's...I'm sure RichardS remembers...

gs34 · Mar 16th, 2009, 05:18 PM

LOL!! Funny you should mention that. We were just talking about those a couple of days ago over morning coffee.

They were called "Frantz" filters (brand name) and were a big seller from JC Whitney.
With all the toilet paper being biodegradable, I don't think they'd work too well today!

Ken S. · Mar 28th, 2009, 03:04 PM

As an aside for anyone who cares, Hastings was sold to Wix and is the same filter.

glider · Mar 28th, 2009, 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken S.

As an aside for anyone who cares, Hastings was sold to Wix and is the same filter.

There's only 5 out of 280 voters that use them.

Ken S. · Mar 28th, 2009, 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glider

There's only 5 out of 280 voters that use them.

I saw that, but Hastings used to make a good filter. Wix really never did. IMO.

smitty901 · Mar 28th, 2009, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NEWHD74FAN

Quite honestly I was skeptical, but since our poll was about oil filters, if there were users of "other" aftermarket types, I just threw it out there.

Anyone remember the toilet roll paper filter for external cannister type used in old Chevy' at a time when bypass filtering element was used -- paper for paper back in the 50's before the new full flow "spin-on's" in the 50's...I'm sure RichardS remembers...

I do remember autos with TP filters they did a lot of engine repairs in on those cars

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Seriously we have come a long way with all engines they are really amazing.
They do require better filters and lubes now to run as long as they do

00BUCKSHOT · Apr 10th, 2009, 01:53 PM

glider these polls are pretty kool
i voted that i use k&n fliters
well i read everyones posts......some of them two times....went out to change my oil yesterday morning after i was done with my oil change......the K&N filter i had was still sitting on the shelf.....my bike now has a HD filter back on it

glider · Apr 10th, 2009, 01:57 PM

Another soul saved. Just look at the specs for the different filters and not how pretty it looks.

View Poll Results: Oil Filter Poll
HD Filter	338	66.02%
Amsoil Filter	50	9.77%
Wix Filter	11	2.15%
K&N Filter	62	12.11%
Napa Filter	7	1.37%
Fram Filter	12	2.34%
Purolator Filter	11	2.15%
Hastings Filter	0	0%
Mobil Filter	5	0.98%
OTHER (Please specify)	16	3.13%
Voters: 512. You may not vote on this poll

Mar 16th, 2009, 07:31 AM	#101
glider Community Liaison Ride: 07 Road King Classic Join Date: Jun 21st, 2007 Posts: 21,062 My Mood:	Re: Oil Filter Poll Thanks but at their rated 35 microns even with the hype they have printed, I'll stick with the 5 micron from HD. I like the wording in this part... Before you start with the, “my filter is rated at 5 microns and it filters way better,” you need to understand just how the micron rating applies to oil filters. According to K&P Engineering, paper filters are rated on averages, percentages and multiple passes, so a 10-micron-rated paper filter may be letting particles 50 microns and larger through. The medical grade stainless steel cloth they use in their filters is consistent across the entire surface and is rated at 35 microns, meaning nothing larger than 35 microns should pass through the material. __________________ Psssst! Please stop by the "self help section" for maintenance tips, diagnostic codes and much more. click me!>>Self Help Information and Tips<< click me!

Mar 16th, 2009, 01:25 PM	#102
gs34 Contributor$ Ride: 2007 FLHTC Join Date: Apr 25th, 2008 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 642	Re: Oil Filter Poll As far as I'm concerned, all the same reasons apply to this filter that apply to the one that Smitty asked about in an earlier post. In all actuality, this filter is even worse because, not only do you have a can and pieces which are subject to collecting foreign particles while open, you also subject your engine to the introduction of debris with a filter that you must clean by hand!!! Do you really think you can get it as clean and sanitary as is the media in a factory cartridge filter? An engineer for the heavy equipment manufacturer for whom I worked for over 30 years once told me this.... It is to our benefit as a manufacturer, as well as our customers benefit, to equip our engines and machinery with the best, most efficient filtration systems that we can. This practice insures that we will limit our warranty problems and maximize longevity and performance for our customers. I would assume that other manufacturers, such as Harley Davidson, would operate under these same constraints.

Mar 16th, 2009, 05:08 PM	#103
NEWHD74FAN Moderators Ride: 2004 Sportster XL1200RS Join Date: Aug 24th, 2008 Location: Camarillo, CA Posts: 4,962 My Mood:	Re: Oil Filter Poll Quite honestly I was skeptical, but since our poll was about oil filters, if there were users of "other" aftermarket types, I just threw it out there. Anyone remember the toilet roll paper filter for external cannister type used in old Chevy' at a time when bypass filtering element was used -- paper for paper back in the 50's before the new full flow "spin-on's" in the 50's...I'm sure RichardS remembers... __________________ Please stop by the "Self Help section" for maintenance tips, diagnostic codes and much more. >>Self Help Information and Tips<<

Mar 16th, 2009, 05:18 PM	#104
gs34 Contributor$ Ride: 2007 FLHTC Join Date: Apr 25th, 2008 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 642	Re: Oil Filter Poll LOL!! Funny you should mention that. We were just talking about those a couple of days ago over morning coffee. They were called "Frantz" filters (brand name) and were a big seller from JC Whitney. With all the toilet paper being biodegradable, I don't think they'd work too well today!

Mar 28th, 2009, 03:04 PM	#105
Ken S. Play The Throttle Ride: 1996 sportster 883 hugger Join Date: Dec 25th, 2008 Location: Ohio Posts: 279 My Mood:	Re: Oil Filter Poll As an aside for anyone who cares, Hastings was sold to Wix and is the same filter. __________________ From dust I came and to dust I shall return. Until then, I'll ride and leave the dust behind me.

Apr 10th, 2009, 01:53 PM	#109
00BUCKSHOT Contributor$ Ride: WIDEGLIDE Join Date: Apr 7th, 2009 Location: South Carolina Posts: 457 My Mood:	Re: Oil Filter Poll glider these polls are pretty kool i voted that i use k&n fliters well i read everyones posts......some of them two times....went out to change my oil yesterday morning after i was done with my oil change......the K&N filter i had was still sitting on the shelf.....my bike now has a HD filter back on it

Apr 10th, 2009, 01:57 PM	#110
glider Community Liaison Ride: 07 Road King Classic Join Date: Jun 21st, 2007 Posts: 21,062 My Mood:	Re: Oil Filter Poll Another soul saved. Just look at the specs for the different filters and not how pretty it looks. __________________ Psssst! Please stop by the "self help section" for maintenance tips, diagnostic codes and much more. click me!>>Self Help Information and Tips<< click me!

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