Engine Oil Poll

SE103 · 10-27-2007, 06:21 PM

I use Lucas thats what i have always used in all of my bikes.

glider · 10-27-2007, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SE103

I use Lucas thats what i have always used in all of my bikes.

I knew that, it's why I included it in the poll

leapfreak · 11-02-2007, 07:53 PM

Hey Glider - Don't know if you get H-D's "Enthusiast" magazine, but in the Fall 2007 issue on page 10, there's an article entitled, "Straight Talk about Syn3." Typical interview type of article which, in a nutshell, tries to sell that H-D brand of oil stating it has been developed and tested exclusively for all 3-holes in a Harley. Think I will continue to stick to Mobile1 V-Twin 20w50 in the crankcase, Mobile1 75w90 Gear Oil in the trans and H-D Formula+ in the primary. Just makes better sense to me.

glider · 11-02-2007, 08:02 PM

Yes I do get the mag.

They can convey anything they wish as a good marketing ploy but it is no good in the trans, it's too thin .

I have a few buds that work on these bikes in dealerships and they see the bikes coming in with blued shift forks and bearing problems that have been using SYN 3. It's just not thick enough for the trans, even in engine is marginal too besides NOT being a group 4 synthetic like the others.
It it were so great an oil, why then did Harley stop advocating the use of it in the trans in 05? Now they push formula+ which is better than the syn 3 in the trans but is still a compromise for the gearbox and the primary BOTH. If you try other syn oils and then switch to syn 3 , listen to the engine noise and it will verify what I am telling you.

I use the formula+ only in the primary.

bb156ny · 11-11-2007, 12:44 PM

In that article "Straight Talk About SYN3 Oil" It sounds to me as if "THEY" could void the warranty if their test shows you were not using HD oil ? Because I would like to run thicker and better oil in the crankcase and transmission.

glider · 11-11-2007, 03:58 PM

I reread the article again and to me it sounds as if they are taking BOTH sides of the fence by saying first you should use syn 3 or face possibly voiding the warrantee (pure BS) , and then you can use other brands if it meets or exceeds their specs.

They play with the words so much that I really don't think THEY know!

The Magnusson Moss act disagree's with their teachings.

http://www.hdtalking.com/general_tip...warrantee.html

Not Very PC · 11-11-2007, 04:49 PM

[quote=glider;10209
The Magnusson Moss act disagrees with their teachings.

Federal law should mandate that it's posted on every door, wall and bike as well as make you and the Stealer sign a copy of it with each purchase!!!

glider · 11-11-2007, 05:06 PM

Excellent idea, so how could we start this ball rolling?

Not Very PC · 11-11-2007, 05:10 PM

We could make it our Campaign Platform for the upcoming elections!!

glider · 11-11-2007, 05:16 PM

Can you imagine the reprocussions from the dealers if this was posted in every dealership? It may drive them honest.

View Poll Results: Engine Oil Poll
Mobil 1 V Twin	107	33.86%
Mobil 1 red or gold cap	12	3.80%
Redline	9	2.85%
Royal Purple	6	1.90%
Bel Ray	2	0.63%
HD 360	22	6.96%
Syn 3	53	16.77%
Amsoil	85	26.90%
Lucas	13	4.11%
OTHER (Please Specify)	18	5.70%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 316. You may not vote on this poll

10-27-2007, 06:21 PM	#11 (permalink)
SE103 Community Star Ride: 2004 FLHTCSE 103 Join Date: 2007, Sep 10 Location: NW Georgia Posts: 528 My Mood:	Re: Engine Oil Poll I use Lucas thats what i have always used in all of my bikes.

11-02-2007, 07:53 PM	#13 (permalink)
leapfreak Warming The Wheels Ride: 2007 Heritage Softail Classic Join Date: 2007, Jan 06 Location: Middle Tennessee Posts: 139	Re: Engine Oil Poll Hey Glider - Don't know if you get H-D's "Enthusiast" magazine, but in the Fall 2007 issue on page 10, there's an article entitled, "Straight Talk about Syn3." Typical interview type of article which, in a nutshell, tries to sell that H-D brand of oil stating it has been developed and tested exclusively for all 3-holes in a Harley. Think I will continue to stick to Mobile1 V-Twin 20w50 in the crankcase, Mobile1 75w90 Gear Oil in the trans and H-D Formula+ in the primary. Just makes better sense to me.

11-02-2007, 08:02 PM	#14 (permalink)
glider Community Liaison Ride: 07 Road King Classic Join Date: 2007, Jun 21 Posts: 10,377 My Mood:	Re: Engine Oil Poll Yes I do get the mag. They can convey anything they wish as a good marketing ploy but it is no good in the trans, it's too thin . I have a few buds that work on these bikes in dealerships and they see the bikes coming in with blued shift forks and bearing problems that have been using SYN 3. It's just not thick enough for the trans, even in engine is marginal too besides NOT being a group 4 synthetic like the others. It it were so great an oil, why then did Harley stop advocating the use of it in the trans in 05? Now they push formula+ which is better than the syn 3 in the trans but is still a compromise for the gearbox and the primary BOTH. If you try other syn oils and then switch to syn 3 , listen to the engine noise and it will verify what I am telling you. I use the formula+ only in the primary. __________________ Psssst! Please stop by the "self help section" for maintenance tips, diagnostic codes and much more. click me!>>Self Help Information and Tips<< click me!

11-11-2007, 12:44 PM	#15 (permalink)
bb156ny Warming The Wheels Ride: 2007 Heritage Softail Classic Join Date: 2007, Jan 14 Location: Arizona Posts: 58 My Mood:	Re: Engine Oil Poll In that article "Straight Talk About SYN3 Oil" It sounds to me as if "THEY" could void the warranty if their test shows you were not using HD oil ? Because I would like to run thicker and better oil in the crankcase and transmission. __________________ BB156

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11-11-2007, 03:58 PM	#16 (permalink)
glider Community Liaison Ride: 07 Road King Classic Join Date: 2007, Jun 21 Posts: 10,377 My Mood:	Re: Engine Oil Poll I reread the article again and to me it sounds as if they are taking BOTH sides of the fence by saying first you should use syn 3 or face possibly voiding the warrantee (pure BS) , and then you can use other brands if it meets or exceeds their specs. They play with the words so much that I really don't think THEY know! The Magnusson Moss act disagree's with their teachings. http://www.hdtalking.com/general_tip...warrantee.html __________________ Psssst! Please stop by the "self help section" for maintenance tips, diagnostic codes and much more. click me!>>Self Help Information and Tips<< click me! Last edited by glider : 11-11-2007 at 04:01 PM.

11-11-2007, 04:49 PM	#17 (permalink)
Not Very PC R.I.P Ride: Fast SuperGlides Join Date: 2007, Apr 17 Location: We live in my mind Posts: 603 My Mood:	Re: Engine Oil Poll [quote=glider;10209 The Magnusson Moss act disagrees with their teachings. Federal law should mandate that it's posted on every door, wall and bike as well as make you and the Stealer sign a copy of it with each purchase!!! __________________ "It's just a tool box, you pick the tool for the job". "Myself I like the ol' 1911 45." (Sam, Ronin) "I know because I've still got the shovel" (Man who knew the real story)

11-11-2007, 05:06 PM	#18 (permalink)
glider Community Liaison Ride: 07 Road King Classic Join Date: 2007, Jun 21 Posts: 10,377 My Mood:	Re: Engine Oil Poll Excellent idea, so how could we start this ball rolling? __________________ Psssst! Please stop by the "self help section" for maintenance tips, diagnostic codes and much more. click me!>>Self Help Information and Tips<< click me!

11-11-2007, 05:10 PM	#19 (permalink)
Not Very PC R.I.P Ride: Fast SuperGlides Join Date: 2007, Apr 17 Location: We live in my mind Posts: 603 My Mood:	Re: Engine Oil Poll We could make it our Campaign Platform for the upcoming elections!! __________________ "It's just a tool box, you pick the tool for the job". "Myself I like the ol' 1911 45." (Sam, Ronin) "I know because I've still got the shovel" (Man who knew the real story)

11-11-2007, 05:16 PM	#20 (permalink)
glider Community Liaison Ride: 07 Road King Classic Join Date: 2007, Jun 21 Posts: 10,377 My Mood:	Re: Engine Oil Poll Can you imagine the reprocussions from the dealers if this was posted in every dealership? It may drive them honest. __________________ Psssst! Please stop by the "self help section" for maintenance tips, diagnostic codes and much more. click me!>>Self Help Information and Tips<< click me!

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