Engine Oil Poll

SE103 · Oct 27th, 2007, 05:21 PM

I use Lucas thats what i have always used in all of my bikes.

glider · Oct 27th, 2007, 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SE103

I use Lucas thats what i have always used in all of my bikes.

I knew that, it's why I included it in the poll

leapfreak · Nov 2nd, 2007, 07:53 PM

Hey Glider - Don't know if you get H-D's "Enthusiast" magazine, but in the Fall 2007 issue on page 10, there's an article entitled, "Straight Talk about Syn3." Typical interview type of article which, in a nutshell, tries to sell that H-D brand of oil stating it has been developed and tested exclusively for all 3-holes in a Harley. Think I will continue to stick to Mobile1 V-Twin 20w50 in the crankcase, Mobile1 75w90 Gear Oil in the trans and H-D Formula+ in the primary. Just makes better sense to me.

glider · Nov 2nd, 2007, 08:02 PM

Yes I do get the mag.

They can convey anything they wish as a good marketing ploy but it is no good in the trans, it's too thin .

I have a few buds that work on these bikes in dealerships and they see the bikes coming in with blued shift forks and bearing problems that have been using SYN 3. It's just not thick enough for the trans, even in engine is marginal too besides NOT being a group 4 synthetic like the others.
It it were so great an oil, why then did Harley stop advocating the use of it in the trans in 05? Now they push formula+ which is better than the syn 3 in the trans but is still a compromise for the gearbox and the primary BOTH. If you try other syn oils and then switch to syn 3 , listen to the engine noise and it will verify what I am telling you.

I use the formula+ only in the primary.

glider · Nov 11th, 2007, 02:58 PM

I reread the article again and to me it sounds as if they are taking BOTH sides of the fence by saying first you should use syn 3 or face possibly voiding the warrantee , and then you can use other brands if it meets or exceeds their specs.

They play with the words so much that I really don't think THEY know!

The Magnusson Moss act disagree's with their teachings.

http://www.hdtalking.com/general_tip...warrantee.html

Not Very PC · Nov 11th, 2007, 03:49 PM

[quote=glider;10209
The Magnusson Moss act disagrees with their teachings.

Federal law should mandate that it's posted on every door, wall and bike as well as make you and the Stealer sign a copy of it with each purchase!!!

glider · Nov 11th, 2007, 04:06 PM

Excellent idea, so how could we start this ball rolling?

Not Very PC · Nov 11th, 2007, 04:10 PM

We could make it our Campaign Platform for the upcoming elections!!

glider · Nov 11th, 2007, 04:16 PM

Can you imagine the reprocussions from the dealers if this was posted in every dealership? It may drive them honest.

Not Very PC · Nov 11th, 2007, 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glider

Can you imagine the reprocussions from the dealers if this was posted in every dealership? It may drive them honest.

It would sure cut into the profit margin, probably put a few shops out of business!

View Poll Results: Engine Oil Poll
Mobil 1 V Twin	251	31.61%
Mobil 1 red or gold cap	28	3.53%
Redline	26	3.27%
Royal Purple	20	2.52%
Bel Ray	3	0.38%
HD 360	67	8.44%
Syn 3	108	13.60%
Amsoil	234	29.47%
Lucas	21	2.64%
OTHER (Please Specify)	50	6.30%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 794. You may not vote on this poll

Oct 27th, 2007, 05:21 PM	#11
SE103 Community Star Ride: 2004 FLHTCSE 103 Join Date: Sep 9th, 2007 Location: NW Georgia Posts: 532 My Mood:	Re: Engine Oil Poll I use Lucas thats what i have always used in all of my bikes.

Nov 2nd, 2007, 07:53 PM	#13
leapfreak Warming The Wheels Ride: 2008 Ultra Classic w/Motor Trike Kit Join Date: Jan 6th, 2007 Location: Middle Tennessee Posts: 144	Re: Engine Oil Poll Hey Glider - Don't know if you get H-D's "Enthusiast" magazine, but in the Fall 2007 issue on page 10, there's an article entitled, "Straight Talk about Syn3." Typical interview type of article which, in a nutshell, tries to sell that H-D brand of oil stating it has been developed and tested exclusively for all 3-holes in a Harley. Think I will continue to stick to Mobile1 V-Twin 20w50 in the crankcase, Mobile1 75w90 Gear Oil in the trans and H-D Formula+ in the primary. Just makes better sense to me.

Nov 2nd, 2007, 08:02 PM	#14
glider Community Liaison Ride: 07 Road King Classic Join Date: Jun 21st, 2007 Posts: 21,060 My Mood:	Re: Engine Oil Poll Yes I do get the mag. They can convey anything they wish as a good marketing ploy but it is no good in the trans, it's too thin . I have a few buds that work on these bikes in dealerships and they see the bikes coming in with blued shift forks and bearing problems that have been using SYN 3. It's just not thick enough for the trans, even in engine is marginal too besides NOT being a group 4 synthetic like the others. It it were so great an oil, why then did Harley stop advocating the use of it in the trans in 05? Now they push formula+ which is better than the syn 3 in the trans but is still a compromise for the gearbox and the primary BOTH. If you try other syn oils and then switch to syn 3 , listen to the engine noise and it will verify what I am telling you. I use the formula+ only in the primary. __________________ Psssst! Please stop by the "self help section" for maintenance tips, diagnostic codes and much more. click me!>>Self Help Information and Tips<< click me!

Nov 11th, 2007, 02:58 PM	#15
glider Community Liaison Ride: 07 Road King Classic Join Date: Jun 21st, 2007 Posts: 21,060 My Mood:	Re: Engine Oil Poll I reread the article again and to me it sounds as if they are taking BOTH sides of the fence by saying first you should use syn 3 or face possibly voiding the warrantee , and then you can use other brands if it meets or exceeds their specs. They play with the words so much that I really don't think THEY know! The Magnusson Moss act disagree's with their teachings. http://www.hdtalking.com/general_tip...warrantee.html __________________ Psssst! Please stop by the "self help section" for maintenance tips, diagnostic codes and much more. click me!>>Self Help Information and Tips<< click me! Last edited by glider; Apr 15th, 2009 at 08:39 AM.

Nov 11th, 2007, 03:49 PM	#16
Not Very PC R.I.P Ride: Fast SuperGlides Join Date: Apr 17th, 2007 Location: We live in my mind Posts: 598 My Mood:	Re: Engine Oil Poll [quote=glider;10209 The Magnusson Moss act disagrees with their teachings. Federal law should mandate that it's posted on every door, wall and bike as well as make you and the Stealer sign a copy of it with each purchase!!! __________________ "It's just a tool box, you pick the tool for the job". "Myself I like the ol' 1911 45." (Sam, Ronin) "I know because I've still got the shovel" (Man who knew the real story)

Nov 11th, 2007, 04:06 PM	#17
glider Community Liaison Ride: 07 Road King Classic Join Date: Jun 21st, 2007 Posts: 21,060 My Mood:	Re: Engine Oil Poll Excellent idea, so how could we start this ball rolling? __________________ Psssst! Please stop by the "self help section" for maintenance tips, diagnostic codes and much more. click me!>>Self Help Information and Tips<< click me!

Nov 11th, 2007, 04:10 PM	#18
Not Very PC R.I.P Ride: Fast SuperGlides Join Date: Apr 17th, 2007 Location: We live in my mind Posts: 598 My Mood:	Re: Engine Oil Poll We could make it our Campaign Platform for the upcoming elections!! __________________ "It's just a tool box, you pick the tool for the job". "Myself I like the ol' 1911 45." (Sam, Ronin) "I know because I've still got the shovel" (Man who knew the real story)

Nov 11th, 2007, 04:16 PM	#19
glider Community Liaison Ride: 07 Road King Classic Join Date: Jun 21st, 2007 Posts: 21,060 My Mood:	Re: Engine Oil Poll Can you imagine the reprocussions from the dealers if this was posted in every dealership? It may drive them honest. __________________ Psssst! Please stop by the "self help section" for maintenance tips, diagnostic codes and much more. click me!>>Self Help Information and Tips<< click me!

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