Engine Oil Poll

smitty901 · 05-14-2008, 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clayvis

Around here (West coast of Florida) the local $tealers will NOT put any other brand except HD in a bike. They SELL Amsoil in the parts department because some customers want it, but the service dept. will not install it. No problem for do it yourselfers like me. They usually only have a few quarts on hand, so you have to ask them to order it, then wait, etc...a big pain. Mobil 1 at Autozone is SO much easier. As far as Spectro 6 speed, fa-get-about-it. They never heard of it, and won't put it in even if you brought in a quart. I had a Honda dealer order it for me. They were super nice about it. Got a case in a few days. Even gave me a discout on the price! I am set for quite a while now...unless my friends find out I have it! Naw, they all let the $tealer put syn3 in all 3 holes. Oh well, to each his own.

I have never heard of anything like this amazing

Barnicle · 05-29-2008, 10:48 PM

This oil thing is out of control. OK! I used Amsoil 20/50 in both holes on my sportster changing from hd360 and F+. I put 4k on the bike and this is what came of it.
Although the oil temp was lowered while using Amsoil the engine noise increased ( valve train). The transmision and and chain case also seemed a little noiser than with the dyno. I just finished a lube change in both holes using HD 360 and F+. Noticed about the same amount of metal on the drain plug usin the syn. Took it for a spin after the change and wala everything quieted down and the transmision seems to shift better. Think I'm going to stick with the dyno oil as I change it regulary and it is cheaper.

Ride safe out there.

The Bad Man's Angel · 06-04-2008, 08:30 AM

At my 1000 mile service I had the Dealer use Mobile1 V-Twin 20w50 in both the engine and Primary / Trans. They had no problem using it as long as I supplied the oil.
But they did " hard sale to a dumb woman" their Syn3 oil. My hubby uses Mobile1 V-Twin in his engine, primary & Moblie1 75/140 in his trans.
Did I chose wisely or poorly?
Next oil change I'll be doing myself!

glider · 06-04-2008, 08:32 AM

You did good but the primary would be happier with a non synthetic oil in there, too slippery for the clutches to be entirely happy.

I hope you didn't furnish the dealer with an extra quart of oil for the primary on your bike.

Also the trans on big twins likes a gear oil instead of engine oil.

The Bad Man's Angel · 06-05-2008, 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glider

You did good but the primary would be happier with a non synthetic oil in there, too slippery for the clutches to be entirely happy.

I hope you didn't furnish the dealer with an extra quart of oil for the primary on your bike.

Also the trans on big twins likes a gear oil instead of engine oil.

5qts total. 1 for primary / transmision and 3.5qts for the engine.
What should I use in the P/T that is not synthetic? Will the Mobile1 hurt my clutch? Should I change it out now or wait till the 5000 mile service?

smitty901 · 06-05-2008, 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Man's Angel

5qts total. 1 for primary / transmision and 3.5qts for the engine.
What should I use in the P/T that is not synthetic? Will the Mobile1 hurt my clutch? Should I change it out now or wait till the 5000 mile service?

I for one am wondering about the old rule that says no sny in the primary.
It seems that M1 is sure pushing M1Vtwin for the primary also now.
I am seriously thinking about using it in the primary.

m1Vtwin is a fine engine oil but i think Redline shock proof heavy or Spectro platium would be a better lube for the tranmission.

glider · 06-09-2008, 08:08 AM

Smitty

Rules change but the clutch still will perform better with non syn in there. Syn oils are slipperier than dino oils , the clutch needs the opposite of that to work best. Why would you want to use an oil that is slipperier in the clutch compartment?

cdn-bigfoot · 06-17-2008, 12:34 AM

Engine - Mobil 1 V-Twin full synthetic oil.
Primary - Any good quality Dino oil 10/40 wt. (synthetics are too slippery)
Transmission - Royal Purple 85/140 Max Gear full synthetic oil.

Just went to the new oils.
Been using HD Syn 3 until now.

smitty901 · 06-21-2008, 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glider

Smitty

Rules change but the clutch still will perform better with non syn in there. Syn oils are slipperier than dino oils , the clutch needs the opposite of that to work best. Why would you want to use an oil that is slipperier in the clutch compartment?

I understand that Glide it just seem that now every SNY sold is being recommend for Primary I was wondering if they changed something in the products or has testing shown it to work?

glider · 06-21-2008, 10:25 AM

Don't know the correct answer to that one Smitty, but what it could boil down to is more sales possibly for their product. Try contacting one of the oil companies you speak of and see what kind of an answer they give you on this subject.

Myself, I try to eliminate a possible problem like the syn in the primary by using an oil that I KNOW will not cause a problem rather than hoping it will work and not cause slippage. Much easier to use an oil without molly and not have to replace clutch plates IMO.

View Poll Results: Engine Oil Poll
Mobil 1 V Twin	107	33.86%
Mobil 1 red or gold cap	12	3.80%
Redline	9	2.85%
Royal Purple	6	1.90%
Bel Ray	2	0.63%
HD 360	22	6.96%
Syn 3	53	16.77%
Amsoil	85	26.90%
Lucas	13	4.11%
OTHER (Please Specify)	18	5.70%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 316. You may not vote on this poll

05-29-2008, 10:48 PM	#122 (permalink)
Barnicle Start The Engine Ride: 2006 Sportster XL1200C Join Date: 2007, Nov 25 Location: Suffolk Va Posts: 13 My Mood:	Re: Engine Oil Poll This oil thing is out of control. OK! I used Amsoil 20/50 in both holes on my sportster changing from hd360 and F+. I put 4k on the bike and this is what came of it. Although the oil temp was lowered while using Amsoil the engine noise increased ( valve train). The transmision and and chain case also seemed a little noiser than with the dyno. I just finished a lube change in both holes using HD 360 and F+. Noticed about the same amount of metal on the drain plug usin the syn. Took it for a spin after the change and wala everything quieted down and the transmision seems to shift better. Think I'm going to stick with the dyno oil as I change it regulary and it is cheaper. Ride safe out there.

06-04-2008, 08:30 AM	#123 (permalink)
The Bad Man's Angel Warming The Wheels Ride: 2006 XL883 Low Join Date: 2008, Jun 04 Location: West Virginia 37.3742°N 81.213°W Posts: 118	Re: Engine Oil Poll At my 1000 mile service I had the Dealer use Mobile1 V-Twin 20w50 in both the engine and Primary / Trans. They had no problem using it as long as I supplied the oil. But they did " hard sale to a dumb woman" their Syn3 oil. My hubby uses Mobile1 V-Twin in his engine, primary & Moblie1 75/140 in his trans. Did I chose wisely or poorly? Next oil change I'll be doing myself!

06-04-2008, 08:32 AM	#124 (permalink)
glider Community Liaison Ride: 07 Road King Classic Join Date: 2007, Jun 21 Posts: 10,377 My Mood:	Re: Engine Oil Poll You did good but the primary would be happier with a non synthetic oil in there, too slippery for the clutches to be entirely happy. I hope you didn't furnish the dealer with an extra quart of oil for the primary on your bike. Also the trans on big twins likes a gear oil instead of engine oil. __________________ Psssst! Please stop by the "self help section" for maintenance tips, diagnostic codes and much more. click me!>>Self Help Information and Tips<< click me!

06-09-2008, 08:08 AM	#127 (permalink)
glider Community Liaison Ride: 07 Road King Classic Join Date: 2007, Jun 21 Posts: 10,377 My Mood:	Re: Engine Oil Poll Smitty Rules change but the clutch still will perform better with non syn in there. Syn oils are slipperier than dino oils , the clutch needs the opposite of that to work best. Why would you want to use an oil that is slipperier in the clutch compartment? __________________ Psssst! Please stop by the "self help section" for maintenance tips, diagnostic codes and much more. click me!>>Self Help Information and Tips<< click me!

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06-17-2008, 12:34 AM	#128 (permalink)
cdn-bigfoot Play The Throttle Ride: 2006 Dyna Street Bob Join Date: 2008, Mar 09 Location: I am CANADIAN Posts: 185	Re: Engine Oil Poll Engine - Mobil 1 V-Twin full synthetic oil. Primary - Any good quality Dino oil 10/40 wt. (synthetics are too slippery) Transmission - Royal Purple 85/140 Max Gear full synthetic oil. Just went to the new oils. Been using HD Syn 3 until now. __________________ ...let em hear you comin'.

06-21-2008, 10:25 AM	#130 (permalink)
glider Community Liaison Ride: 07 Road King Classic Join Date: 2007, Jun 21 Posts: 10,377 My Mood:	Re: Engine Oil Poll Don't know the correct answer to that one Smitty, but what it could boil down to is more sales possibly for their product. Try contacting one of the oil companies you speak of and see what kind of an answer they give you on this subject. Myself, I try to eliminate a possible problem like the syn in the primary by using an oil that I KNOW will not cause a problem rather than hoping it will work and not cause slippage. Much easier to use an oil without molly and not have to replace clutch plates IMO. __________________ Psssst! Please stop by the "self help section" for maintenance tips, diagnostic codes and much more. click me!>>Self Help Information and Tips<< click me!

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