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nitroracer · Mar 10th, 2012, 08:04 AM

Very good idea to steer clear of rev tech stuff,we bore stock cylinders to 98",the woods cams are also known for being alittle noisy

BUBBIE · Mar 10th, 2012, 10:44 AM

BETTER Than NEW cylinders: Use your SEASONED cylinders to Bore Properly by a GOOD machine shop that DOES a lot of them ... Not the back-yard mechanic that Doesn't have ALL the needed equipment/torque plate/micrometers/ABILITY.

Doing a cost comparison, the Kit you build your self should not be that much more.

Better to pay a few $$$ more the first time and not have to Re-pay to get it right.

I Too have Learned this the Expensive Way.

signed....BUBBIE

bodean46 · Mar 14th, 2012, 07:47 AM

Well, after 1200 miles, it still makes quite a bit of racket, but re-adjusted the valves helped some. The pushrods (Screamin Eagle non-tapered) seem to have a catch at the lifter cup so thinking that may be causing some of the noise. Bike pulls like a freight train with the wife and i both on it, even tho i haven't twisted it real hard yet, just 50 to 70 in a little over a car length, but wife says it runs a whole lot better, so we're going to ride it for another 1500 miles then decide with the shop what direction to go. Real happy with the power so may just ride it out.

BUBBIE · Mar 14th, 2012, 10:43 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by bodean46 View Post

Well, after 1200 miles, it still makes quite a bit of racket, but re-adjusted the valves helped some. The pushrods (Screamin Eagle non-tapered) seem to have a catch at the lifter cup so thinking that may be causing some of the noise. Bike pulls like a freight train with the wife and i both on it, even tho i haven't twisted it real hard yet, just 50 to 70 in a little over a car length, but wife says it runs a whole lot better, so we're going to ride it for another 1500 miles then decide with the shop what direction to go. Real happy with the power so may just ride it out.

**************************

YOU would/will BE surprised How Much of that Piston Slap noise IS from the pushrods CLICKING ....

IN MINE, I ALWAYS use the SE Slender Tapers... Just for that REASON, Noise... Been there with that noise...

HEY, In the Old Days, Piston Slap was a GOOD sound.. Most will think it a Hot Rod Bike anyways.. Get a set of Earplugs and enjoy that ride... LATER you can remady the SOUND...
Good for you that it is running top-notch.

1200 miles? It iS broken in enough to Open it up and let the Pony's out...

signed....BUBBIE

bodean46 · Mar 14th, 2012, 01:01 PM

Have a friend that just had his built by the same indy, but it's a 117" 2010 street glide. He's got about 1100 miles on his and it's quiet as stock so i'm going to see how i handle his at the drag strip. The owner will let us in, just wont turn on the tree or timers, so we'll do it with an arm drop. Imagine he'll smoke me, but because mine sounds the way it does, he's not sure what i've done, and the mechanics won't tell him, so he's a little nervous, lol.

bodean46 · May 30th, 2012, 07:19 PM

After 4000 miles i finally decided to have new Fuel Moto pushrods installed. Will pick it up Friday and hope it's a little quieter.

bodean46 · Jun 1st, 2012, 02:40 PM

What a difference! 2 S.E. pushrods had a bow in them when they took them out. Got the Fuel Moto's in and it's as quiet now as it was with the old top end. Only sound now is valves opening and closing and the piston slap from the short skirted KB pistons, which is minimal compared to what it was,

03hdfatboy · Sep 30th, 2012, 08:31 PM

I had KB pistons in my old build of my fatty. I'll never us em again.

BUBBIE · Oct 1st, 2012, 10:34 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by 03hdfatboy View Post

I had KB pistons in my old build of my fatty. I'll never us em again.

Thinking I used a set of KB's in a build , early TC and worked good...

Am I correct here?

Thinking the specks called out for a TIGHT fit.. .0005 min. Yes tenths

Had a PRO torque-plate bore my seasoned barrels to 95" FITTED the pistons Tight and they were Quiet...

signed....BUBBIE

Jack Klarich · Oct 1st, 2012, 06:10 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by BUBBIE View Post

Thinking I used a set of KB's in a build , early TC and worked good...

Am I correct here?

Thinking the specks called out for a TIGHT fit.. .0005 min. Yes tenths

Had a PRO torque-plate bore my seasoned barrels to 95" FITTED the pistons Tight and they were Quiet...

signed....BUBBIE

That sound correct, you want a tighter fit, K B will custom make pistons but they aint cheap

Forged are stronger than cast, some are noisey nature of the beast

Mar 10th, 2012, 08:04 AM	#21
nitroracer Start The Engine Ride: 97 127" ultra Join Date: Aug 20th, 2011 Posts: 10	Re: 97" build sounds like it's coming apart Very good idea to steer clear of rev tech stuff,we bore stock cylinders to 98",the woods cams are also known for being alittle noisy __________________ AMRA profuel champion,AMRA & AHDRA record holder 7.19@189/4.54@167

Mar 10th, 2012, 10:44 AM	#22
BUBBIE Contributor$ Ride: FLHR 09 Join Date: Oct 15th, 2008 Location: AZ, S.East corner/Western WA. Posts: 4,015 My Mood:	Re: 97" build sounds like it's coming apart BETTER Than NEW cylinders: Use your SEASONED cylinders to Bore Properly by a GOOD machine shop that DOES a lot of them ... Not the back-yard mechanic that Doesn't have ALL the needed equipment/torque plate/micrometers/ABILITY. Doing a cost comparison, the Kit you build your self should not be that much more. Better to pay a few $$$ more the first time and not have to Re-pay to get it right. I Too have Learned this the Expensive Way. signed....BUBBIE __________________ ************************* Quite Often I am Right so Forgive me when I'm WRONG!!!.......

Mar 14th, 2012, 07:47 AM	#23
bodean46 Start The Engine Ride: 2001 FLHTCUI Join Date: Nov 8th, 2011 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 19	Re: 97" build sounds like it's coming apart Well, after 1200 miles, it still makes quite a bit of racket, but re-adjusted the valves helped some. The pushrods (Screamin Eagle non-tapered) seem to have a catch at the lifter cup so thinking that may be causing some of the noise. Bike pulls like a freight train with the wife and i both on it, even tho i haven't twisted it real hard yet, just 50 to 70 in a little over a car length, but wife says it runs a whole lot better, so we're going to ride it for another 1500 miles then decide with the shop what direction to go. Real happy with the power so may just ride it out. __________________ Life ain't easy when your fat and greasy!

Mar 14th, 2012, 10:43 AM	#24
BUBBIE Contributor$ Ride: FLHR 09 Join Date: Oct 15th, 2008 Location: AZ, S.East corner/Western WA. Posts: 4,015 My Mood:	Re: 97" build sounds like it's coming apart Quote: Originally Posted by bodean46 View Post Well, after 1200 miles, it still makes quite a bit of racket, but re-adjusted the valves helped some. The pushrods (Screamin Eagle non-tapered) seem to have a catch at the lifter cup so thinking that may be causing some of the noise. Bike pulls like a freight train with the wife and i both on it, even tho i haven't twisted it real hard yet, just 50 to 70 in a little over a car length, but wife says it runs a whole lot better, so we're going to ride it for another 1500 miles then decide with the shop what direction to go. Real happy with the power so may just ride it out. ************************ YOU would/will BE surprised How Much of that Piston Slap noise IS from the pushrods CLICKING .... IN MINE, I ALWAYS use the SE Slender Tapers... Just for that REASON, Noise... Been there with that noise... HEY, In the Old Days, Piston Slap was a GOOD sound.. Most will think it a Hot Rod Bike anyways.. Get a set of Earplugs and enjoy that ride... LATER you can remady the SOUND... Good for you that it is running top-notch. 1200 miles? It iS broken in enough to Open it up and let the Pony's out... signed....BUBBIE __________________ *********************** Quite Often I am Right so Forgive me when I'm WRONG!!!.......

Mar 14th, 2012, 01:01 PM	#25
bodean46 Start The Engine Ride: 2001 FLHTCUI Join Date: Nov 8th, 2011 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 19	Re: 97" build sounds like it's coming apart Have a friend that just had his built by the same indy, but it's a 117" 2010 street glide. He's got about 1100 miles on his and it's quiet as stock so i'm going to see how i handle his at the drag strip. The owner will let us in, just wont turn on the tree or timers, so we'll do it with an arm drop. Imagine he'll smoke me, but because mine sounds the way it does, he's not sure what i've done, and the mechanics won't tell him, so he's a little nervous, lol. __________________ Life ain't easy when your fat and greasy!

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May 30th, 2012, 07:19 PM	#26
bodean46 Start The Engine Ride: 2001 FLHTCUI Join Date: Nov 8th, 2011 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 19	Re: 97" build sounds like it's coming apart After 4000 miles i finally decided to have new Fuel Moto pushrods installed. Will pick it up Friday and hope it's a little quieter. __________________ Life ain't easy when your fat and greasy!

Jun 1st, 2012, 02:40 PM	#27
bodean46 Start The Engine Ride: 2001 FLHTCUI Join Date: Nov 8th, 2011 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 19	Re: 97" build sounds like it's coming apart What a difference! 2 S.E. pushrods had a bow in them when they took them out. Got the Fuel Moto's in and it's as quiet now as it was with the old top end. Only sound now is valves opening and closing and the piston slap from the short skirted KB pistons, which is minimal compared to what it was, __________________ Life ain't easy when your fat and greasy!

Sep 30th, 2012, 08:31 PM	#28
03hdfatboy Start The Engine Ride: 2003 FATBOY Join Date: Sep 11th, 2010 Location: Eastern NC Posts: 46 My Mood:	I had KB pistons in my old build of my fatty. I'll never us em again. __________________ 95" J.E.T heads HQ-0033G KB 10.5:1 Darkhorse Crank Baker OD6 Bassini RoadRage

Oct 1st, 2012, 10:34 AM	#29
BUBBIE Contributor$ Ride: FLHR 09 Join Date: Oct 15th, 2008 Location: AZ, S.East corner/Western WA. Posts: 4,015 My Mood:	Re: 97" build sounds like it's coming apart Quote: Originally Posted by 03hdfatboy View Post I had KB pistons in my old build of my fatty. I'll never us em again. Thinking I used a set of KB's in a build , early TC and worked good... Am I correct here? Thinking the specks called out for a TIGHT fit.. .0005 min. Yes tenths Had a PRO torque-plate bore my seasoned barrels to 95" FITTED the pistons Tight and they were Quiet... signed....BUBBIE __________________ ************************* Quite Often I am Right so Forgive me when I'm WRONG!!!.......

Oct 1st, 2012, 06:10 PM	#30
Jack Klarich Contributor$ Ride: 2007 Streetbob Join Date: Sep 25th, 2009 Location: Jacksonville, Florida Posts: 13,748 My Mood:	Re: 97" build sounds like it's coming apart Quote: Originally Posted by BUBBIE View Post Thinking I used a set of KB's in a build , early TC and worked good... Am I correct here? Thinking the specks called out for a TIGHT fit.. .0005 min. Yes tenths Had a PRO torque-plate bore my seasoned barrels to 95" FITTED the pistons Tight and they were Quiet... signed....BUBBIE That sound correct, you want a tighter fit, K B will custom make pistons but they aint cheap Forged are stronger than cast, some are noisey nature of the beast __________________ CAPITAL JACK( Nuff Said, We're Burnin Daylight, Let's Ride)

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