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Exhaust Pipe Blueing

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Exhaust Pipe Blueing
Published by glider (Community Liaison)
Published date: Nov 29th, 2007

High performance Harley Davidson motorcycle engines develop large amounts of heat, causing bluing and discoloration of the exhaust system. There are several methods of preventing or disguising this including heat shields and exhaust coatings.

Motorcycle exhaust pipes are almost always chrome plated. The chrome serves as a protection against rust, abrasion, and the occasional oil spray. While chrome is a uniquely inert coating, even the best plating job will yellow, gold, and then blue when subjected to extreme temperature that can be generated in a high-performance engine. An out of tune engine can cause bluing far down the motorcycle pipe where the exhaust would usually be cooler if the air-fuel mixture is overly rich. A rich mixture will ignite at the hot spot inside the Harley Davidson's muffler where a glowing baffle will cause a flame to hover and a large blue spot will appear on the outside of the motorcycle exhaust pipe. Almost every newer bike will blue the header pipe for a few inches from the head in the first several hundred miles.

Once discoloration occurs it can be removed using commercially available products like Blue-away (CCI#12-415) or Blue-Buster (CCI#35-125). These products are mildly abrasive, so after several applications the mirror finish of the chrome becomes satin-like, so the best way to deal with bluing is to prevent it or cover it up. To prevent motorcycle exhaust pipe bluing many folks claim coating the inside of the header by spraying high heat VHT paint into it will prevent or reduce bluing. Another way is to coat a piece of rag with oil and swab the inside of the pipe header with it.

This supposedly will cause a carbon layer to form and insulate the metal from some of the heat. The preferred way to treat pipes is to coat the inside with a ceramic based liquid like Dyno Kote (CCI#11-499), or Blue Shield (DS#KR005) made by the folks who make Kreem Tank protectant. Both these are recommended for clean new pipes, and a good roughing with a wire brush internally to remove any flash rust and a spray with a good solvent to remove any oil is recommended.

The Dyno Kote kit comes with a brush and solvent. After applying the coating as per the directions, the pipes should be baked so the coating cures completely. A regular household oven works fine if you let the ends of the pipes hang out of the door and bake at 150 degrees for about 20 minutes, or at the temperature and time specified. I have seen motorcycle pipes coated this way cut in half as a demonstration and the coating stays intact. The ceramic coating is highly insulating, much like the ceramic tiles on the space shuttle and will insulate the metal pipe from the hot exhaust gas.

Another way of dealing with the motorcycle exhaust bluing problem is to cover it up with exhaust shields. Most commercial motorcycle exhaust pipes are available with optional heat shields, and universal heat shields can be used to cover odd shapes and spots on custom pipes. Some pipes like Vance & Hines use a 220 degree wraparound shield that is form fit to the pipe and is very inconspicuous. Recently hard chrome introduced a new line of large diameter pipes that are double walled, with a smaller pipe inside a large outer pipe which should eliminate discoloration as well. Some manufacturers also coat their pipes internally from the factory like the Hooker and Strader lines.

Whatever the cause, motorcycle exhaust pipe bluing is unsightly and detracts from an otherwise shiny motorcycle. Prevent it, cover it, or remove it, and your motorcycle will look it's shiny best!
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Old Nov 30th, 2007, 06:20 AM     #1
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Re: Exhaust Pipe Blueing

Both of my brothers' brand new FLSTF's have blueing on the rear pipes almost down to the muffler.It's all hidden by the heat shields,but is reflected on that nice shiny oil tank thingy.
One bike has 150 miles ;the other 250 miles.

I've followed the lean,hot -running debate with the 2007 models very closely & expected some discolouration,but not this much this soon.The boys both had H-D oil coolers fitted before purchase & one of 'em fitted that little fan combo that slides in where the horn goes.Plus that cute digital gauge that shows temps of 220 degrees F.

Are Harley pipes double thickness like a Japanese bike or is it just the high temps that blue the pipes?Can things like a Stage 1 kit etc cool them down?Can these heat issues be caused by the fact that we ride on the wrong side of the road & dont get correct cooling on the right side of the motor?
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Re: Exhaust Pipe Blueing

I think you have a good possibility there about driving on the wrong side causing the discoloration on the pipes

The oil cooler will help, also the stage 1 but the culprit is the lean mixtures and an EPA cam as well, not even to mention ignition timing. If you were to do something about these things, then you would see a reduction in the heat in the newer models.

220* on the oil is about right for most but with an oil cooler , it is usually a bit lower.
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I think you have a good possibility there about driving on the wrong side causing the discoloration on the pipes

The oil cooler will help, also the stage 1 but the culprit is the lean mixtures and an EPA cam as well, not even to mention ignition timing. If you were to do something about these things, then you would see a reduction in the heat in the newer models.

220* on the oil is about right for most but with an oil cooler , it is usually a bit lower.
The Harley / Jagg oil cooler is good for 20F reduction while idling in Daytona or Myrtle Beach traffic and 25f - 30f at 75mph on the highway.
But a Remap is the first priority even on stock bikes.
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