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Roller Chain ConversionHarley Davidson Engine Related Issues |
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(Community Liaison)
Published date: Apr 8th, 2008 |
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Play The Throttle
Ride: 2005 Electra Glide Standard
Join Date: Apr 2nd, 2008
Location: Vero Beach, FL
Posts: 248
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Re: Roller Chain Conversion
I wonder how much it would cost to have this installed?
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Community Liaison
Ride: 07 Road King Classic
Join Date: Jun 21st, 2007
Posts: 20,162
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Re: Roller Chain Conversion
The cams come from Andrews for now and the rest from the HD dealer. They should be able to give you a price for parts.
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Start The Engine
Ride: 2006 electra glide ultra classic
Join Date: Dec 12th, 2007
Location: Cohasset, Minnesota
Posts: 25
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Re: Roller Chain Conversion
Wouldn't it be a wise choice to go with gear drive cams at this time?
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Community Liaison
Ride: 07 Road King Classic
Join Date: Jun 21st, 2007
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Re: Roller Chain Conversion
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Gear drives will not be as popular as the roller chain conversion when you take into consideration the excessive run out on the shafts in some of the motors. Excessive run out makes for some noisy gear drives and since the start of the new chain tensioner here. it just about eliminates the older cam tensioner problems. |
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Moderators
Ride: 2000 electra glide
Join Date: Nov 5th, 2007
Location: Ontario Canada
Posts: 744
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Re: Roller Chain Conversion
Doesn't the roller chain also have a nylon block as part of the tensioner assembly? Have they had any issues with it?
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Community Liaison
Ride: 07 Road King Classic
Join Date: Jun 21st, 2007
Posts: 20,162
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Re: Roller Chain Conversion
Yes, it has a nylon block as opposed the composition blocks on the older ones but look at the size of it compared to the older tensioners. Also it is oil pressure driven against the chain where the older chain tensioners were spring loaded, possibly the downfall of that system.
Also notice the contact point and how it rides against the chain too compared to the older ones. |
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Warming The Wheels
Ride: 2000 Heritage Springer FLSTS
Join Date: Jan 25th, 2008
Posts: 50
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Re: Roller Chain Conversion
Not to mention that in the new roller chain set-up the link plates have been "smoothed", so they don't eat up the guides.
Also, I have a friend here in the Memphis area who put 100,000 mi on his '03 Deuce before having the original cam chain, guides and tentioners replaced. Replaced with the same. He now has 174,000 mi and thats all he done to the bike and its still running strong. (Billy Hettle owner, Bumpus H-D of Memphis servicer) Last edited by Mac2000HS; Nov 7th, 2008 at 11:51 PM. Reason: added more |
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Moderators
Ride: 2000 electra glide
Join Date: Nov 5th, 2007
Location: Ontario Canada
Posts: 744
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Re: Roller Chain Conversion
I have done the roller chain conversion and all is well. My total cost including a 2009 manuel inner bearing puller, bearing installer, cam and crank locking tool and S/E adj P/R, all shims and gasket and torrington inner bearings, oil pump and cam support plate, tensioners and chains, cam shafts, B lifters was about $1250. The manuel and the tools were about $300.
If anyone wants more information feel free to send me a PM |
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Community Star
Ride: 2003 Wide Glide
Join Date: Sep 20th, 2008
Posts: 467
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Re: Roller Chain Conversion
I had the gear drive, new cams, adj push rods, and bearings done in '06. The gear drive is louder, but I expected that and have no problems with it. My reason for change was discovering significant wear on the tensioners. I would say one was right at the failure point. This was after the dealer said there really was not an issue with the tensioners until 30k miles or so. I believe I had 16k miles on the bike when the wear was discovered.
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