Harley Davidson Forums

Loading


Hello

Guest

Welcome to the harley davidson forum. Join our discussion today for FREE!

CREATE ACCOUNT

Membership Benefits

Get your questions answered by harley davidson community gurus and industry experts. Exchange your experience with another members. Access full features forum. Get a members discounts for your harley parts & accessories.

What Cam is in my 85 EVO ?

Engine, Fuel and Exhaust

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old Aug 25th, 2010, 02:09 PM     #1
Play The Throttle
Ride: 1985 FLHTC
 
BOBFLHTC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 30th, 2009
Posts: 273
My Mood: My Mood
BOBFLHTC is an unknown quantity at this point
What Cam is in my 85 EVO ?

I am considering changing cams this winter and I'm not sure which cam I currently have. Apparently there are 5 options for EVO's. I'm not sure if its a 84-87 or 81-91 (L). The non CA and pre 92 apparently have more Valve Lift
Thanks Bob


84-93 CA
84-87
92-98 (N)
81-91 (L)
88-91
BOBFLHTC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 25th, 2010, 02:23 PM     #2
Banned
Ride: 2009 flhtcui
 
Join Date: Oct 8th, 2009
Location: south bend indiana USA
Posts: 1,516
My Mood: My Mood
ultrat is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: What Cam is in my 85 EVO ?

in 93 fl went w/ andrews 23....i tried red shift came on to late....good luck';';';
ultrat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 25th, 2010, 02:35 PM     #3
Play The Throttle
Ride: 1985 FLHTC
 
BOBFLHTC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 30th, 2009
Posts: 273
My Mood: My Mood
BOBFLHTC is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: What Cam is in my 85 EVO ?

I'm looking at the chart and the EV23 has .498 lift for the Intake and Exhaust

Did you pick up power on the low end ? Did you sacrifice too much on the high ? Was it much different than stock ?

Thanks
Bob
BOBFLHTC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 25th, 2010, 04:35 PM     #4
Retired Moderators
Ride: 2005 FLTRI
 
Join Date: Aug 28th, 2009
Location: Suwannee, Fl
Posts: 4,732
My Mood: My Mood
HDDon will become famous soon enoughHDDon will become famous soon enough
Re: What Cam is in my 85 EVO ?

I'm not sure if it will answer your question but Andrews reccommened that I use their EV-27. I have a '94FLSTC Evo, and I have always liked the way it runs.
HDDon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 25th, 2010, 04:44 PM     #5
Banned
Ride: 2009 flhtcui
 
Join Date: Oct 8th, 2009
Location: south bend indiana USA
Posts: 1,516
My Mood: My Mood
ultrat is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: What Cam is in my 85 EVO ?

sorry its been a while 27 not 23...23 lighter bikes.. I get # mixed up dyslectic,,,,, came on at low end did sacrifice on high end.. get one that closes intake about 30 deg...
ultrat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 25th, 2010, 04:57 PM     #6
Contributor
Ride: 2007 Electra Glide Classic
 
Breeze3at's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 18th, 2009
Location: Warner Robins, GA
Posts: 3,975
My Mood: My Mood
Breeze3at has a spectacular aura aboutBreeze3at has a spectacular aura about
Re: What Cam is in my 85 EVO ?

Bob; The EV27 has a tiny bit less lift (.495/.495) and a little more duration
(236/240 vs. 220/228). It was a popular cam for heavier bikes, and is bolt in. Andrews used to have an informative web site, I haven't looked at it in years.
You can also find good sales on Andrews cams by shopping around.
__________________
Pete / Breeze .380
_________________________________________
I don't ride fast, but I will ride far.
Breeze3at is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 25th, 2010, 06:26 PM     #7
Contributor
Ride: 2007 Streetbob
 
Jack Klarich's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 25th, 2009
Location: Jacksonville, Florida
Posts: 15,655
My Mood: My Mood
Jack Klarich has a spectacular aura aboutJack Klarich has a spectacular aura about
Re: What Cam is in my 85 EVO ?

Quote: Originally Posted by BOBFLHTC View Post
I am considering changing cams this winter and I'm not sure which cam I currently have. Apparently there are 5 options for EVO's. I'm not sure if its a 84-87 or 81-91 (L). The non CA and pre 92 apparently have more Valve Lift
Thanks Bob


84-93 CA
84-87
92-98 (N)
81-91 (L)
88-91
Check with Hoople, I loaned him my Big Twin High performance guide He can look it up for you, Jack
__________________
CAPITAL JACK( Nuff Said, We're Burnin Daylight, Let's Ride)
Jack Klarich is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 26th, 2010, 09:39 AM     #8
Play The Throttle
Ride: 1985 FLHTC
 
BOBFLHTC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 30th, 2009
Posts: 273
My Mood: My Mood
BOBFLHTC is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: What Cam is in my 85 EVO ?

Thanks for the feedback. It does seem that many are happy with EV27.

I saw this site about performance tuning which if accurate was helpful.

Making More Horsepower

Valve Lift
The more lift your cam has, the more fuel/air mixture gets in your engine but If your cam has more than 1/2 inch of lift, the stock valve springs bind.

Duration
Stock Harley cams have no overlap. The longer the valves are open, the higher the rpm at which the cam is effective.
Less duration will produce more low end torque and less top end horsepower; more duration will produce less low end torque and more top end horsepower.


Since I have 2 into 1 pipes it suggests my peak torque has moved up in Rpm's so I would want a cam with:

Less Duration (more Low end torque),
More Valve Lift (more fuel and air)
More Overlap (more efficient)

I sent a email to Andrews for a recommendation. It looks like EV23 might be a possibility too

Thanks Bob
BOBFLHTC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 26th, 2010, 12:18 PM     #9
Contributor
Ride: FLHR 09/103"
 
BUBBIE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 15th, 2008
Location: AZ, S.East corner/Western WA.
Posts: 4,462
My Mood: My Mood
BUBBIE has a spectacular aura aboutBUBBIE has a spectacular aura about
Re: What Cam is in my 85 EVO ?

Quote: Originally Posted by ultrat View Post
sorry its been a while 27 not 23...23 lighter bikes.. I get # mixed up dyslectic,,,,, came on at low end did sacrifice on high end.. get one that closes intake about 30 deg...
I know IF the intake Closes Earlier you get More LOW End torque Like ultrat says..

I am going "Playing" with a 4* sprocket on/for my 09 FLHR.. Idea is to MOVE the intake to Close at an earlier Number.. for the torque to come on a bit earlier.
When I put in SE255 cams, I Like the results BUT would rather they come on a little earlier for my Heavy Bike..
I am going to order the andrews 4 degree +- engine sprocket (17 tooth) and see what it does for my full stage One with TFI..

If it does what Steve 07 has done or close (he used SE254 cams with the 4* sprocket) claims Much More Low End!

I will POST a new thread when I find out "How It Works"

Part # that TQ1 furnished me is andrews #216323...

For your EVO, I believe you are right on track with the 23 or the 13 but NOT the 27 cam. REMEMBER most people Over Cam and that does not give better results,,, It Takes away!

EV23 = 10/30 on intake lift 498/498
EV13 = 15/31 on intake lift 485/495
EV 27 = 20/36 on intake lift 495/495

Proper compression and volumes are needed to get results with Bigger cams and usually the RPM band Moves Way Up where you don't need/want it for a heavy bike.

I would like the cam to start on the LOWEST RPM when Just thinking Cam!!
Especially on the heavy bikes...

I would go with the EV23 IMHO on the three that Could be used on your bike... The intake closes earliest! Along with the highest Lift.

signed....BUBBIE
BUBBIE is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 26th, 2010, 08:37 PM     #10
Play The Throttle
Ride: 1985 FLHTC
 
BOBFLHTC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 30th, 2009
Posts: 273
My Mood: My Mood
BOBFLHTC is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: What Cam is in my 85 EVO ?

I emailed Andrews support with this description:

I'm looking to replace the cam on my stock 1985 EV80 FLHTC. It has a S&S E carb with free flowing filter, SE ignition module, 2 into 1 Patriot Defender exhaust. My riding preference: touring, sometimes 2 up, almost never over 3500 rpm or 70 mph. I don't wind the gears out

and they recommended the EV13. I understand it runs cooler due to the longer exhaust duration. I wonder if its a significant difference ? Thanks Bob
BOBFLHTC is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes