Xied's installed hers some word on them

smitty901

Some more of that HD bling on this RG glide it is going to fly the smoked turn signal covers and the leather covers for the hard bags lids had to add at least 10 HP
I know all that crome I put on the fatboy made it run great

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smitty901

150 miles today with XIED's installed. riding 2 up on counrty roads 25 to 70 mph up and dowm in speed the whole ride.
Bike ran fine, responce to throttle is good. One small back fire after a coast into town then hit the throttle. Not sure about this but I swear when I started it in the garage for a second I could smell fuel.
Some times small increases can be hard to nail down so I will in a bit remove them and go back to with out them That should make the difference easyer to spot.
As of now I still giving them a Go.
Any others that are playing with them please post what you find fact or just how you feel they do.

As has happen to others I did get P0131 and P0151 codes I cleared them twice and P0131 has not come back cleared the P0151 a third time it has not come back I have been told this was normal.
P0131 front 02 lean P0151 rear 02 lean

heres hopw the plugs look with Xied's. keep in mind it is hard with todays engines and fuel to tell as much as we use to from them. The plugs befor Xied's were white to light gloden brown.
now a bit darker no were near as white

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smitty901

Codes are not going away the will keep coming back. they are triggered in the first 60 seconds of start up warm or cold.
Research I am doing says they are nothing to be concerned with?
I am keeping them on for a while yet. Bike is running rine with them.

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Smitty

If you added the IED's wich richen the fuel mix and you are getting a lean code popping up now, what do you think that's telling you?

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smitty901

teach me master
all the reading I have done in the last 12 hours says the codes are a false throw?
everything else seems to show the bike is a bit richer.
The back fire is some thing that happens only only once in a while under some conditions. I have checked and rechecked for any exhaust leaks.

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glider

Smitty

Far from the master here

I haven't used the IED's only because I don't feel they are the solution to the problem. At the least, I would use a TFI and maybe a PC III.If I was after the last ounce of power that the engine could offer, it would be the SERT with a competent tuner. I find that in most cases a stock bike with some fuel added will offer a good ride and when guys go with the full blown SERT, quite often they end up with a bike that will give them some problems with pinging. It's all in the hands of a good tuner and the way the bike is tuned or set up.
The IED's only work in cruise, why would you only want to richen up one area without dealing with the others even thou you spend most of the time in that area ?
As far as the color of the plugs, with the removal of the tetraethyl lead years ago, the only thing you see from the color of the plug is the fuel additives. If you change fuel brands, the color changes too in many cases.
You can tell the heat range and if it's proper by the color of the ground strap and where it turns color but to use them as a diagnostic feature, it's not like it used to be. Looking deep in the tip of the plug with a 10X magnifier is about the only proper way of getting anything out of plug reading now.

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smitty901

Agree on plug color what I have seens is they are now even were as befor front and rear were different.
I can measure and show the bike does run a bit cooler idle and running down the road. What I can not measure is the stronger throttle responce I seem to be getting and the slightly faster starts.
I start my bike in the garage a lot I have notice a slighty fuel smell when I start it now that was not there befor. It is not much but is there.
I am leaving today 150 mile highway ride work stuff will see how bike acts.
Yesterdays ride was 5 hours country roads with wife all up and own the rpm range. As I said befor the slight poping came when I was riding Hobbit style . I am sure you know what I mean and came when backing off the fuel.

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glider

It's all relative in this respect Smitty. More fuel in will cool things off over the lean and hot factory settings. If you install a SERT, you can vary the VE (volumetric efficiency) and cylinder trim to get both plugs looking the same but it requires a bit of work/time/money to get things right. Faster starts are a result of more fuel over the lean settings too. Not at all uncommon to get the fuel smell when a cold start is made. The fuel tables in the ECM richen the mixture on FI bikes to get it running and when you add more fuel regardless of the method (except the SERT which allows for cold start fuel adjustments) you quite often end up with more fuel than needed and the reason for the smell.
My last bike I had the stage 2 download from the dealer which some refer to as a race download. That bike had cams and FI and ran like the devil was chasing it but when started cold, it was very rich and stunk. Had a SERT been installed, this could be programmed out. Everything is relative is what I am trying to say here.

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smitty901

So it would appear the xieds are adding at least a bit more fuel ?
back in a bit I must get some of this grass cut with all the water it is growing fast

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Bud White

WEll after my ride today i cant say heat wise as its cooler here than it has been .. but i also notice the faster start no fuel smell but i did start it out of the garage today ..

Seat of the pants not the best measurement and subjective it seems to have a throater growl and lower idle not much but enought to notice when you roll the power on it seems right there now .. and 5th gear was easier to ride in the 55 mph range when i rolled it on to go faster there was no feeling of out of power it just rolled on and sped up

Only other changes i made were a K&N air filter about a week before the xieds

The pipes were noticable cooler but again i cant say that wasnt the weather thought i was stopped at a couple of long red lights and didnt notice the heat buil up as fast.. so far im happy will report back more when i ride more.. so far no codes for mine

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