Its ILL - and its the ECM

Bud White · Nov 1st, 2009, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hobbit

there on the hit list as well, but its getting to the point were i will just return it and tell the dealer to fix it

very true but what are odds itll be right dont seem like they have done well so far

Hobbit · Nov 1st, 2009, 08:47 PM

my dealer has not actually had the bike to strip and check all the stuff as the work was done by there sister branch 25miles away.
i will see what i can see and then drop it off as its getting beyond a joke

Hobbit · Nov 4th, 2009, 11:50 AM

well its sat at the dealer

they have checked everything out and due to the fact that it is still throwing P1477 even tho its blanked off they are certain the ECM is at fault, they are also looking at getting in a borescope to check the barrels if not they are stripping it down to check for damage as they cannot beb sure that running the ECM like it is has not done some damage.
Plug electrodes were bright red!!!
Exhaust gases were overly rich!!!

suggesting that the motor is running HOT but EXcessivley Rich , they are not sure how this is occuring.

it is due a compression test and other investigations they also suggested and oil cooler, and the guy working on it build drag motors and suggested the 257 cam to help it breathe along with the trottle body.
i have decided get it fixed and then see were i go

Hoople · Nov 4th, 2009, 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hobbit

Plug electrodes were bright red!!!
go

Electrode or Porcelain. Their word or did you see it?

Hoop!

Hobbit · Nov 4th, 2009, 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoople

Electrode or Porcelain. Their word or did you see it?

Hoop!

the porcelain was bright red, with scorch marks near to what would be the flame front, the surrounds were black, the electrode had a flaky substance on it, looked like it had laminated and was peeling apart

oh the plugs have only done 250 miles

Hoople · Nov 4th, 2009, 12:34 PM

Are you running some exotic fuel? I once had orange rust color porcelain from running Hi octane additives. But it was Not Red. It was Orange.
Could it be?

I do agree. The ECM does sound like it is toast.

Hobbit · Nov 4th, 2009, 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoople

Are you running some exotic fuel? I once had orange rust color porcelain from running Hi octane additives. But it was Not Red. It was Orange.
Could it be?

I do agree. The ECM does sound like it is toast.

Nope its a normal grade fuel available straight from the pump, and it was red

Hoople · Nov 4th, 2009, 01:52 PM

Hobbit,
Man you have me stumped on this one. I have seen some crazy stuff in my days, but I am clueless to what this Red coating could be.

Hobbit · Nov 4th, 2009, 02:01 PM

Yep it's got the dealer stumped as well specially as the exhaust is very very black to the extent the swing arm is covered in carbon
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glider · Nov 4th, 2009, 02:26 PM

Bad ECM!

Nov 1st, 2009, 08:47 PM	#22
Hobbit Moderators Ride: 09 CVO Ultra Classic Join Date: May 18th, 2007 Location: The Shires UK Posts: 8,726 My Mood:	Re: Its ILL - and its the ECM my dealer has not actually had the bike to strip and check all the stuff as the work was done by there sister branch 25miles away. i will see what i can see and then drop it off as its getting beyond a joke __________________ Please stop by the "self help section" for maintenance tips, diagnostic codes and much more. >>Self Help Information and Tips<< click me!

Nov 4th, 2009, 11:50 AM	#23
Hobbit Moderators Ride: 09 CVO Ultra Classic Join Date: May 18th, 2007 Location: The Shires UK Posts: 8,726 My Mood:	Re: Its ILL - and its the ECM well its sat at the dealer they have checked everything out and due to the fact that it is still throwing P1477 even tho its blanked off they are certain the ECM is at fault, they are also looking at getting in a borescope to check the barrels if not they are stripping it down to check for damage as they cannot beb sure that running the ECM like it is has not done some damage. Plug electrodes were bright red!!! Exhaust gases were overly rich!!! suggesting that the motor is running HOT but EXcessivley Rich , they are not sure how this is occuring. it is due a compression test and other investigations they also suggested and oil cooler, and the guy working on it build drag motors and suggested the 257 cam to help it breathe along with the trottle body. i have decided get it fixed and then see were i go __________________ Please stop by the "self help section" for maintenance tips, diagnostic codes and much more. >>Self Help Information and Tips<< click me!

Nov 4th, 2009, 12:34 PM	#26
Hoople Contributor$ Ride: 2009 Dyna Low Join Date: Aug 16th, 2009 Posts: 1,073	Re: Its ILL - and its the ECM Are you running some exotic fuel? I once had orange rust color porcelain from running Hi octane additives. But it was Not Red. It was Orange. Could it be? I do agree. The ECM does sound like it is toast.

Nov 4th, 2009, 01:52 PM	#28
Hoople Contributor$ Ride: 2009 Dyna Low Join Date: Aug 16th, 2009 Posts: 1,073	Re: Its ILL - and its the ECM Hobbit, Man you have me stumped on this one. I have seen some crazy stuff in my days, but I am clueless to what this Red coating could be.

Nov 4th, 2009, 02:01 PM	#29
Hobbit Moderators Ride: 09 CVO Ultra Classic Join Date: May 18th, 2007 Location: The Shires UK Posts: 8,726 My Mood:	Re: Its ILL - and its the ECM Yep it's got the dealer stumped as well specially as the exhaust is very very black to the extent the swing arm is covered in carbon Posted via Mobile Device

Nov 4th, 2009, 02:26 PM	#30
glider Community Liaison Ride: 07 Road King Classic Join Date: Jun 21st, 2007 Posts: 21,053 My Mood:	Re: Its ILL - and its the ECM Bad ECM! __________________ Psssst! Please stop by the "self help section" for maintenance tips, diagnostic codes and much more. click me!>>Self Help Information and Tips<< click me!

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