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Ride: Dyan Super Glide Custom
Join Date: Aug 2nd, 2009
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Shifting without Clutch
On my 06 Dyna I notice I can shift gears without engaging the clutch after shifting from first to second. How bad can one damage the trans by doing this and is this possible on other bikes or is it a flaw? I can up shift and down shift is that strange or what?
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Shifting without Clutch
You'll be grinding the gears on your tranny use the clutch
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Yes the term for that is speed shifting and it is not a matter of doing it right. You listen to the revs and shift at the proper time or, look at the tachometer and shift. Usualy done when drag racing. Never the less, it is always bad for the tranny. But so is drag racing lol. They usualy plan on redoing the tranny anyway. They are looking for speed at the track and clutching just takes more time. A person that wants their tranny to last would never do such a thing.
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Ride: Dyan Super Glide Custom
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Shifting without Clutch
When I shift there are no grinding sounds at all just a slight jerk and thats all a rather smooth operation.
Thank you for your input I'll stay on the safe road and use the clutch. I don't need any avoidable problems. Thanks Speedyron Last edited by glider; Aug 5th, 2009 at 02:15 PM. Reason: merged |
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it is possible to shift gear on any automobile without using the clutch as long as the revs are correct and the gear box is in good operable order.
i do it when on the strip - im cheap and cant afford an air shifter, basically you rev the motor and apply pressure to the shifter as you slightly drop the revs the bike will shift up and you can bang the power on without loosing much. i dont reccommend doing it all the time but it is possible not unless your racing and only going up the box, for street riding use the clutch
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Ride: 1995 FLHTC
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Re: Shifting without Clutch
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There are guys who can do this right , then there are others like my self who cant and will eventualy pay for it. The choice is yours. |
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Ride: 2007 electraglide standard
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Re: Shifting without Clutch
With any manual trans. you can sincronize the gears with correct timing but it invairiably will put more wear on the trans. I've had it happen where I put a little pressure on the shifter before pulling the clutch and right before I was going to shift it goes in without a grind, very smooth. This should give you an idea where the best shift points are. But not a recommended practice.
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Re: Shifting without Clutch
Not a good idea and not reason to do it. But your bike do as you please .
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Ride: 02 wide glide
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Re: Shifting without Clutch
drove trucks for years mostly 13 speeds never used a clutch. trans and clutch lasted a normal life. but i wouldnt do it in my pick up and wouldnt dream of doing it on my bike.
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Ride: 2007 lowrider fxdl
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Re: Shifting without Clutch
Why would you anyway?
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Re: Shifting without Clutch
I drive a 97 International 10 wheel dump truck. I mainly use the clutch for starting and stopping. Still have the SAME tranny in it with NO problems. I use it to plow snow all winter, and haul dirt and asphalt all summer.
Now take my 07 Street Bob, it has a Pingel Electric shifter, and I only use the clutch to start and stop.(great speed shifting). I suppose this acts on the same principle as keeping the revs up and shifting without a clutch eh? Gosh, I love the spell check in Firefox! BRIAN |
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