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Fourdogs · 03-30-2008, 01:55 PM

I've read all the comments. I think its great that we all are free to speak our thoughts and beliefs. Now I gotta add a bit more to my previous comments. We have a free society. Thanks to the men and women who started the first rebellion..The "Revolutionary War"....they were rebels remember?...They brought a belief to this country that we should be able to speak...believe in the God if we so choose...etc..thus the "Constitution of the United States of America" was authored and signed.
Now we elect officials, and its the right of each individual to cast a vote for the man or woman we see fit. We also are free to try and inject our thoughts to convince other our choice is the correct one, not at he point of a gun are fear of any reprisal.
Many lives we lost and sacrifices were made. Special the 2nd World War...that last true American hero's (IMHO).
I'm 62 and I was with "Delta 1/9"(USMC) in Vietnam. I truly at first thought like many of us i was fighting to make "America " safe from communist. Of course after 4 months in country and talking with many Vietnamese I was wrong....as it was pointed out to me North Vietnam did not have the capabilities of attacking the US. Also the communist ideas were slowly but surely dying away around the world...Then I though of how many young Americans lost there life in Vietnam specially after reading Robert McNamara's book about it...makes me sick !..Btw I have no purple hearts ...did suffer with depression and still do ..as do anyone who's killed someone has whether they want to admit it are not. To you that did not make it to Vietnam or the middle east I will pass on this tid bit...the first person I killed I still can see his face after 40 years ..he was 6 foot from me ..I threw up all over myself..was sick for several days and did not stop shaking for hours...nor did I sleep for sometime....and for what. I went to "Rolling Thunder" on our Harley 2 years ago..was a moving experience.
Why am I telling all this coz war is "CRAP". Regardless what branch you served in.
We blame 9/11, and WMD for our invasion of Iraq. When in fact the spy satellites ( that can read your license number off your Harley ) clearly saw nothing in the way of WMD in Iraq...Thats according to accounts by the FBI...However the CIA for some still unknown reason dismissed the finding of the FBI..yes the FBI was very much involved in Iraq. Now by Presidential orders they must share information.
This is important to note due to the fact of the 20 terrorist, 19 of which were from Saudi Arabia.
The Taliban were in Afghanistan !...The real reason we're in Iraq ...well when all said and done Exxon Moblie and Halibertin will be the real winners. Which brings me to this next point.
To the young men and women who are serving in Iraq...my hats off to yah...I know those who've had to kill and don't feel the pain deep inside ..you will..and its gonna hurt. Why well because your a human.
I ride with the PGR...when at these funerals I can't help but cry(and I do) I've talked with non NCO's E-3s..PFC's...No officers...because these are the men and women that are in the jist of things...most from staff sgt and above can't relay their feeling on the most part..they are truly dedicated troopers...as I heard Colin Powell state at a address in a speech to Rolling Thunder.
Most have been in country at least 2 or more tours in Iraq..the ones in the green zones says yeah lots have been accomplished because they have electric, and water and better than before living conditions. To the fighting men and women thats out on the roads and in the villages they tell a different story..and NO i don't believe the media at all..I believe the young men and women who put theirs lives on the line daily.
I'm sure two of us here could stand side by side in Iraq and see two totally different wars with different results....So everyone here who's commented is RIGHT!...Lets Please just remember we are All Americans Not Irish-American ...Africa-Americans ..Italian-Americans...but "AMERICANS"...
Yeah! our country isn't what it used to be...but still its up to us..each and everyone of us to get it on the right track again..what makes me madder than hell is so few of Americans vote..hopefully it will change this up coming election...as for me I consider myself a Independent voter...and at this time have no clue as of yet who I will vote for....sorry for such a long post!

03-30-2008, 01:55 PM	#54 (permalink)
Fourdogs Community Star Join Date: 2007, Sep 16 Posts: 640 My Mood:	Re: Obama's Latest Speech I've read all the comments. I think its great that we all are free to speak our thoughts and beliefs. Now I gotta add a bit more to my previous comments. We have a free society. Thanks to the men and women who started the first rebellion..The "Revolutionary War"....they were rebels remember?...They brought a belief to this country that we should be able to speak...believe in the God if we so choose...etc..thus the "Constitution of the United States of America" was authored and signed. Now we elect officials, and its the right of each individual to cast a vote for the man or woman we see fit. We also are free to try and inject our thoughts to convince other our choice is the correct one, not at he point of a gun are fear of any reprisal. Many lives we lost and sacrifices were made. Special the 2nd World War...that last true American hero's (IMHO). I'm 62 and I was with "Delta 1/9"(USMC) in Vietnam. I truly at first thought like many of us i was fighting to make "America " safe from communist. Of course after 4 months in country and talking with many Vietnamese I was wrong....as it was pointed out to me North Vietnam did not have the capabilities of attacking the US. Also the communist ideas were slowly but surely dying away around the world...Then I though of how many young Americans lost there life in Vietnam specially after reading Robert McNamara's book about it...makes me sick !..Btw I have no purple hearts ...did suffer with depression and still do ..as do anyone who's killed someone has whether they want to admit it are not. To you that did not make it to Vietnam or the middle east I will pass on this tid bit...the first person I killed I still can see his face after 40 years ..he was 6 foot from me ..I threw up all over myself..was sick for several days and did not stop shaking for hours...nor did I sleep for sometime....and for what. I went to "Rolling Thunder" on our Harley 2 years ago..was a moving experience. Why am I telling all this coz war is "CRAP". Regardless what branch you served in. We blame 9/11, and WMD for our invasion of Iraq. When in fact the spy satellites ( that can read your license number off your Harley ) clearly saw nothing in the way of WMD in Iraq...Thats according to accounts by the FBI...However the CIA for some still unknown reason dismissed the finding of the FBI..yes the FBI was very much involved in Iraq. Now by Presidential orders they must share information. This is important to note due to the fact of the 20 terrorist, 19 of which were from Saudi Arabia. The Taliban were in Afghanistan !...The real reason we're in Iraq ...well when all said and done Exxon Moblie and Halibertin will be the real winners. Which brings me to this next point. To the young men and women who are serving in Iraq...my hats off to yah...I know those who've had to kill and don't feel the pain deep inside ..you will..and its gonna hurt. Why well because your a human. I ride with the PGR...when at these funerals I can't help but cry(and I do) I've talked with non NCO's E-3s..PFC's...No officers...because these are the men and women that are in the jist of things...most from staff sgt and above can't relay their feeling on the most part..they are truly dedicated troopers...as I heard Colin Powell state at a address in a speech to Rolling Thunder. Most have been in country at least 2 or more tours in Iraq..the ones in the green zones says yeah lots have been accomplished because they have electric, and water and better than before living conditions. To the fighting men and women thats out on the roads and in the villages they tell a different story..and NO i don't believe the media at all..I believe the young men and women who put theirs lives on the line daily. I'm sure two of us here could stand side by side in Iraq and see two totally different wars with different results....So everyone here who's commented is RIGHT!...Lets Please just remember we are All Americans Not Irish-American ...Africa-Americans ..Italian-Americans...but "AMERICANS"... Yeah! our country isn't what it used to be...but still its up to us..each and everyone of us to get it on the right track again..what makes me madder than hell is so few of Americans vote..hopefully it will change this up coming election...as for me I consider myself a Independent voter...and at this time have no clue as of yet who I will vote for....sorry for such a long post!